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#2376 2013-09-26 10:36:00

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Re: What do you think?

That is not given in the problem and they are certainly not going to tell us. They want A's money. The question is about guesses.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#2377 2013-09-26 10:36:54

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Re: What do you think?

But, do they have that information?


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#2378 2013-09-26 10:38:55

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Re: What do you think?

Not to start I guess. It is the only thing A will answer.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#2379 2013-09-26 10:41:08

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Re: What do you think?

So, they can ask him for value of P(x) for any x?


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#2380 2013-09-26 10:42:46

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Re: What do you think?

A says) Hahaha sure, ask what P(n) is as many times as you like.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#2381 2013-09-26 10:44:00

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Re: What do you think?

I wasn't sure if n meant any number or just a natural one...

Either way, there is no way they can be sure of any guess...


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#2382 2013-09-26 10:45:47

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Re: What do you think?

Hi;

Please reread the problem I have made a change that might clear up your questions.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#2383 2013-09-26 14:25:39

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Re: What do you think?

hello m:

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#2384 2013-09-26 14:37:36

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Re: What do you think?

Hi;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#2385 2013-09-26 22:25:32

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Re: What do you think?

Hi bobbym,


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#2386 2013-09-27 02:31:28

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Re: What do you think?

Hi gAr;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#2387 2013-09-27 03:27:27

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Re: What do you think?

Thanks for the problem, good one.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#2388 2013-09-27 03:29:34

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Re: What do you think?

I had the solution she had but yours seems to be best.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#2389 2013-09-27 05:18:00

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Re: What do you think?

Both answers are the same, the latter one is easier to see without a computer.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#2390 2013-09-27 07:54:32

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Re: What do you think?

Hi;

Yours does not require a base conversion, theirs does.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#2391 2013-10-07 21:20:56

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Re: What do you think?

New problem:

100 divisions of soldiers is to be distributed to 50 US cities next month to deal with the coming predicted panic when Nibiru comes close to Earth. How many ways can Gen. S. S. "Stomp em into the dirt" Higgins distribute 100 divisions if each city is to have at least 1 division. He does not know so the Pentagon allocates 1 billion dollars to answer the question. It ends up in our panel of experts.

Hint: Each divisions is different.

A says) That is easy 50! * (100 Ncr 50).

B says) That is a little off A the answer is...

C says) I am getting 100! / 50!

D says) Next month? Darn it was my birthday. Hope it isn't ruined.

E says) I have it, I am going to Disneyland with my billion.

B says) I think you will have to share it with me.

Just then the Gen. walks in. Everyone jumps to attention. A is right. He is awarded the money and he gets the thanks of our great nation. He is a true patriot.

B and E look at each other. What answer do you get?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#2392 2013-10-07 22:37:12

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Re: What do you think?

Hi bobbym

As we might have suspected A's answer is incorrect again.


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#2393 2013-10-07 22:53:21

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Re: What do you think?

Hi;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#2394 2013-10-07 22:57:54

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Re: What do you think?

I'd say it is. Got it from the GF x^50/(1-x)^50.


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#2395 2013-10-07 23:02:04

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Re: What do you think?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#2396 2013-10-07 23:06:20

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Re: What do you think?

So?


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#2397 2013-10-07 23:07:46

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Re: What do you think?

Ah ha I knew you were going to say that.

The fact that the divisions are different means an OGF does not apply.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#2398 2013-10-07 23:11:00

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Re: What do you think?

Oh, the divisions are different. Hm, okay, but it says so nowhere in the text and it is not very logical to assume so...


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“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#2399 2013-10-07 23:18:07

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Re: What do you think?

They are numbered so the 98th is not same as the 53rd but I will add it.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#2400 2013-10-08 00:25:30

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Re: What do you think?

Hi bobbym

I am getting this huge number:


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