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#1 2011-08-13 20:11:32

satwnz
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Is it any pseudo pattern gives prime number in proper range?

My question is that, is it any pseudo pattern gives prime number in proper range? If some set of number can give you each and every prime number in fixed range? Range is like this

2 to   4

3 to    9

5 to    25

11 to 121

13 to 169

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.

.

n to n*n

I have way to find out prime number. It is simple. Most important things is that its not a time taking. Just i will have to subtract a unique set of number from fixed number.
example no 1 ( This give us prime no grater then equal to 11 and less then equal to 121).
210-199=11
210-197=13
210-193=17
210-191=19
210-187=23
210-181=29
210-179=31
210-173=37
210-169=41
210-167=43
210-163=47
210-157=53
210-151=59
210-149=61
210-143=67
210-139=71
210-137=73
210-131=79
210-127=83
210-121=89
210-113=97
210-109=101
210-107=103
210-103=107
210-101=109
210-  97=113
I can find out any prime number.
I have used unique set of number and subtract it from fixed number as in example no 1.




example no 2.( This give us prime no grater then equal to 13 and less then equal to 169)

2310-2297=13
2310-2293=17
2310-2291=19
2310-2287=23
2310-2281=29
2310-2279=31
2310-2273=37
2310-2269=41
2310-2267=43
2310-2263=47
2310-2257=53
2310-2251=59
2310-2249=61
2310-2243=67
2310-2239=71
2310-2237=73
2310-2231=79
2310-2227=83
2310-2221=89
2310-2213=97
2310-2209=101
2310-2207=103
2310-2203=107
2310-2201=109
2310-2197=113
2310-2183=127
2310-2179=131
2310-2173=137
2310-2171=139
2310-2161=149
2310-2159=151
2310-2153=157
2310-2147=163
2310-2143=167.
Sir I can find any prime number of multi digits. But calculating limit of computer do not allow me to work further. So please help me in this regards.

Sir i had already solved so many things in prime number representation is required.
So my request is if possible plz suggest me the platform where i can represent it.

SATISH KUMAR SINGH
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#2 2011-08-13 20:22:02

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Re: Is it any pseudo pattern gives prime number in proper range?

Hi satwnz;

Welcome to the forum.

2310-2179=131
2310-2173=137
2310-2171=139
2310-2161=149
2310-2159=151
2310-2153=157
2310-2147=163
2310-2143=167

The numbers you are using to subtract, how are you creating them?


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#3 2011-08-14 18:39:48

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Re: Is it any pseudo pattern gives prime number in proper range?

Log(N)?


X'(y-Xβ)=0

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#4 2011-08-14 23:23:39

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Re: Is it any pseudo pattern gives prime number in proper range?

Log(N) generates those numbers on the right?


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#5 2011-08-15 12:58:36

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Re: Is it any pseudo pattern gives prime number in proper range?

The "probability" of N being a prime is
1/ln(N)

And the expected amount of primes within the first N natural numbers is:

Li(x) ≡ ∫ 1/ln(x) dx

proved by

Jacques Hadamard & Charles de la Vallée-Poussin


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#6 2011-08-15 13:42:21

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Re: Is it any pseudo pattern gives prime number in proper range?

Hi GeorgeY;

I know about that result and there are others.

2310-2173=137

That still does not explain where the 2173 ( along with the rest ) comes from. That is what I hoping to get him to reveal.


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#7 2011-08-16 20:13:15

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Re: Is it any pseudo pattern gives prime number in proper range?

Ah I see, that's an interesting conjecture.

satwnz you can try publishing it.


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#8 2011-08-16 20:26:33

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Re: Is it any pseudo pattern gives prime number in proper range?

Hi all;

I do not think we are going to get any answers from the OP.


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#9 2011-08-23 22:18:11

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Re: Is it any pseudo pattern gives prime number in proper range?

bobbym wrote:

Hi satwnz;

Welcome to the forum.

2310-2179=131
2310-2173=137
2310-2171=139
2310-2161=149
2310-2159=151
2310-2153=157
2310-2147=163
2310-2143=167

The numbers you are using to subtract, how are you creating them?

Hi it is well define sets of number .........and can go for larger number also..........but my laptop support to 15 digits only.


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#10 2011-08-23 22:22:19

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Re: Is it any pseudo pattern gives prime number in proper range?

bobbym wrote:

Hi GeorgeY;

I know about that result and there are others.

2310-2173=137

That still does not explain where the 2173 ( along with the rest ) comes from. That is what I hoping to get him to reveal.

In fact i am researching in field of prime number pattern..........and number u hd underlied is element of welldfine set.


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#11 2011-08-23 22:23:38

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Re: Is it any pseudo pattern gives prime number in proper range?

George,Y wrote:

Ah I see, that's an interesting conjecture.

satwnz you can try publishing it.

really...........will u help me.


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#12 2011-08-23 22:26:10

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Re: Is it any pseudo pattern gives prime number in proper range?

bobbym wrote:

Hi satwnz;

Welcome to the forum.

2310-2179=131
2310-2173=137
2310-2171=139
2310-2161=149
2310-2159=151
2310-2153=157
2310-2147=163
2310-2143=167

The numbers you are using to subtract, how are you creating them?

how are you creating them...........There two step algo to fin it.If u r intrested in it plz contact me on [email removed by moderator]


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#13 2011-08-24 02:08:10

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Re: Is it any pseudo pattern gives prime number in proper range?

Hi satwnz;

For your own protection please do not leave your email address lying around like that.

Anyways, is there any reason why you can not post your work right here?


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#14 2011-08-24 03:15:14

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Re: Is it any pseudo pattern gives prime number in proper range?

I see that 210  = 2*3*5*7


And I see that 2310 = 2*3*5*7*11



But, for instance, the numbers in the list
that are being subtracted from 210 are
not all prime numbers.  I feel that the numbers
in your list are presupposed, that you are
partially putting the cart before the horse
(or at least sideways to the cart).


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#15 2011-08-25 04:45:52

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Re: Is it any pseudo pattern gives prime number in proper range?

Ipn series    Range of continues Prime    No of Ipn sub series    Common difference    % of Ipn element w.r.t. + Ve integer
I2                    2 ≤ P < 4                           1                              2                                  100%
I3                    3 ≤ P < 9                           1                              2                                  50%
I5                    5 ≤ P < 25                           2                              6                                 33.33%
I7                    7 ≤ P < 49                           8                              30                                  22%
I11                    11 ≤ P < 121                  48                             210                                  20%
I13                    13 ≤ P < 169                  480                            2310                                  19%
I17                     17 ≤ P < 289                  5760                          30030                                   18%
I19                    19 ≤ P < 361                  92160                      510510                           17%
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IpN................
               
               
               
Ex-I3 have one AP Serie and C.d = 2               
3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13------∞               
i) Contain all rpimes and specific odd positive integer from 3 to infinite               
ii) Continious prime 3≤P<9               
ii) I3 Contain only 50.00% of positive integer               
Ex-I5 have two AP Serie and C.d = 6               
5 11 17 23 29 35 41 ------∞               
7 13 19 25 31 37 43 -----∞               
i) Contain all prime and specific odd positive integer from 5 to infinite               
ii) Continuous prime 5≤P<25               
ii) I5 Contains only 33.33% of positive integer


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#16 2011-08-25 04:47:03

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Re: Is it any pseudo pattern gives prime number in proper range?

PREVIOUS POST WAS APPLICATION OF PATTERN ONLY


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#17 2011-08-25 07:08:27

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Re: Is it any pseudo pattern gives prime number in proper range?

You have a list of prime numbers in the far left column,
where they are being used for analysis/calculations.


It looks as though you have to have those prime numbers
in advance to get a longer list of greater prime numbers.


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#18 2011-08-27 00:45:41

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Re: Is it any pseudo pattern gives prime number in proper range?

reconsideryouranswer wrote:

You have a list of prime numbers in the far left column,
where they are being used for analysis/calculations.


It looks as though you have to have those prime numbers
in advance to get a longer list of greater prime numbers.

Ipn series--- It is well define set of posative number.

Range of continues Prime ----It contains each and every prime number in fixed range.

No of Ipn sub series...This Ipn series have subseries it is also well define. 
 
Common difference......As subseries are in A.P so common difference is given

% of Ipn element w.r.t. + Ve integer........it %of Ipn series wrt posative integer.i.e how many Ipn are in set of all +ve integer


Ex-I3( it is Ipn series)  have one AP Serie and C.d = 2               
3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13------∞               
i) Contain all primes and specific odd positive integer from 3 to infinite               
ii) Continious prime 3≤P<9               
ii) I3 Contain only 50.00% of positive integer   
           
Ex-I5( it is Ipn series) have two AP Serie and C.d = 6               
5 11 17 23 29 35 41 ------∞  (sub series 1)             
7 13 19 25 31 37 43 -----∞   (sub series 2)           
i) Contain all prime and specific odd positive integer from 5 to infinite               
ii) Continuous prime 5≤P<25               
ii) I5 Contains only 33.33% of positive integer

like this we can go for any series and any prime number.

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#19 2011-08-27 04:06:19

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Re: Is it any pseudo pattern gives prime number in proper range?

Hi satwnz;

You say that it is not time consuming. But I think you mean just for small numbers.

Is 1 111 111 111 111 111 111 a prime? What do you subtract from this to know?


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#20 2011-09-04 05:00:28

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Re: Is it any pseudo pattern gives prime number in proper range?

bobbym wrote:

Hi satwnz;

You say that it is not time consuming. But I think you mean just for small numbers.

Is 1 111 111 111 111 111 111 a prime? What do you subtract from this to know?

I hv deal wit max 15 digit number.But i can go for n digit numer if some supportive system is with me.
if it is well define for numer up to 15 digit We sure it will give posative result fo n digit number.


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#21 2011-09-04 10:35:16

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Re: Is it any pseudo pattern gives prime number in proper range?

Hi;

I still can not understand unless I see how you do one. Then how do you do 111 111 111 111 111?


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#22 2014-02-26 18:51:06

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Re: Is it any pseudo pattern gives prime number in proper range?

Just for EX

Prime No    Even N0    Prime No-Even No=Prime No
427    420    7
431    420    11
433    420    13
437    420    17
439    420    19
443    420    23
449    420    29
451    420    31
457    420    37
461    420    41
463    420    43
467    420    47

Prime No    Even N0    Prime No-Even No=Prime No
457    450    7
461    450    11
463    450    13
467    450    17
469    450    19
473    450    23
479    450    29
481    450    31
487    450    37
491    450    41
493    450    43
497    450    47

Prime No    Even N0    Prime No-Even No=Prime No
487    480    7
491    480    11
493    480    13
497    480    17
499    480    19
503    480    23
509    480    29
511    480    31
517    480    37
521    480    41
523    480    43
527    480    47

Prime No    Even N0    Prime No-Even No=Prime No
517    510    7
521    510    11
523    510    13
527    510    17
529    510    19
533    510    23
539    510    29
541    510    31
547    510    37
551    510    41
553    510    43
557    510    47

#23 2014-02-27 00:13:10

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Re: Is it any pseudo pattern gives prime number in proper range?

Same way

Prime NO    Even no    Prime NO-Even no= Prime No
5    2    3
7    2    5
11    6    5
13    6    7
17    6    11
19    6    13
23    6    17
29    6    23
37    30    7
41    30    11
43    30    13
47    30    17
53    30    23
59    30    29
61    30    31
67    30    37
71    30    41
73    30    43
223    210    13
227    210    17
229    210    19
233    210    23
239    210    29
241    210    31
251    210    41
257    210    47
263    210    53
269    210    59
271    210    61
277    210    67
281    210    71
283    210    73
293    210    83
307    210    97
311    210    101
313    210    103
317    210    107
2333    2310    23
2339    2310    29
2341    2310    31
2347    2310    37
2351    2310    41
2357    2310    47
2371    2310    61
2377    2310    67
2381    2310    71
2383    2310    73
2389    2310    79
2393    2310    83
2399    2310    89
2411    2310    101
2417    2310    107
2423    2310    113
2437    2310    127
2441    2310    131
2447    2310    137
2459    2310    149
2467    2310    157
2473    2310    163
2477    2310    167
30047    30030    17
30059    30030    29
30071    30030    41
30089    30030    59
30091    30030    61
30097    30030    67
30103    30030    73
30109    30030    79
30113    30030    83
30119    30030    89
30133    30030    103
30137    30030    107
30139    30030    109
30161    30030    131
30169    30030    139
30181    30030    151
30187    30030    157
30197    30030    167
30203    30030    173
30211    30030    181
30223    30030    193
30241    30030    211
30253    30030    223
30259    30030    229
30269    30030    239
30271    30030    241
30293    30030    263
30307    30030    277
30313    30030    283
30319    30030    289

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#24 2014-02-27 00:21:21

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Re: Is it any pseudo pattern gives prime number in proper range?

Hi satish kumar singh;

Please no more examples. Can you or can't you answer the question put to you in post #21?

I have the computing power but unless you can show what you are doing no progress can be made.


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#25 2014-02-27 17:55:37

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Re: Is it any pseudo pattern gives prime number in proper range?

1. As in Ex you can see result, tragate is to find out prime number.

2. we use to substract Ipn-Pn*=Prime no ( Each and every prime number in fix range).So we may say it is a formula to find out prime number.

3. Pn* you know very well( product of prime number).

4. Ipn I have define above.( it is well define set of odd number)

About your question 111 111 111 111 111 is prime or not

first i will have to find out 10540923 ( product of all prime less then equl to 10540923) can be done
second Ipn i.e ( Ip10540923) set.
Result.. it will give all prime number form 10540923 to its squre.

for ex as in above post

Drawback of formula......
Needed big numers to find out small prime number

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