Math Is Fun Forum
  Discussion about math, puzzles, games and fun.   Useful symbols: ÷ × ½ √ ∞ ≠ ≤ ≥ ≈ ⇒ ± ∈ Δ θ ∴ ∑ ∫ • π ƒ -¹ ² ³ °

You are not logged in.

#51 2011-08-27 09:28:19

anonimnystefy
Real Member
From: The Foundation
Registered: 2011-05-23
Posts: 15,397

Re: Hooked!

i do not think i know! tongue


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

Offline

#52 2011-08-27 09:33:48

bobbym
Administrator
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 84,614

Re: Hooked!

Well that I can not convince you. If you will not believe what I say, what is the point of saying?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

Offline

#53 2011-08-27 15:16:57

gAr
Member
Registered: 2011-01-09
Posts: 3,478

Re: Hooked!

Hmmm, omerta! Watch out, bobbym!


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

Offline

#54 2011-08-27 16:40:18

bobbym
Administrator
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 84,614

Re: Hooked!

Ahhhhh! gAr understands!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

Offline

#55 2011-08-27 17:10:21

gAr
Member
Registered: 2011-01-09
Posts: 3,478

Re: Hooked!

Yes!


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

Offline

#56 2011-08-27 17:20:53

bobbym
Administrator
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 84,614

Re: Hooked!

Hi gAr;

How are you today?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

Offline

#57 2011-08-27 18:22:55

gAr
Member
Registered: 2011-01-09
Posts: 3,478

Re: Hooked!

Hi bobbym,

I'm fine.
How are you?


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

Offline

#58 2011-08-27 18:55:48

bobbym
Administrator
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 84,614

Re: Hooked!

Just hanging around.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

Offline

#59 2011-08-27 19:28:02

gAr
Member
Registered: 2011-01-09
Posts: 3,478

Re: Hooked!

Okay.
I'm reading Dr. Z's Opinions. He tells most of my thoughts as well.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

Offline

#60 2011-08-27 19:31:41

bobbym
Administrator
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 84,614

Re: Hooked!

Yes, he is certainly a strange man. Those opinions are incredibly interesting. I also watch his videos but he never makes one point that I have been waiting for!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

Offline

#61 2011-08-27 19:33:14

gAr
Member
Registered: 2011-01-09
Posts: 3,478

Re: Hooked!

Hi bobbym,

Which is that?


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

Offline

#62 2011-08-27 19:40:26

bobbym
Administrator
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 84,614

Re: Hooked!

There is an important extension of Sister Celine's ideas and Ramanujans too. They keep mentioning it in there books but do not tell of the latest research. I know they have made some discovery along these lines.

Some of Ramanujans ideas consisted of proving something by reducing the number of cases to a small finite number and then trying them all. He did this with a famous problem that he proves by trying just 7 cases. The four color theorem is another example of this!

Him and Herbert speak of a method of proof that would reduce every combinatoric identity to trying a small number of cases numerically! I came across just yesterday when he let some of that leak out. Probably before publication.

Imagine proving things by reducing the problem to plugging in just 5 or 6  numbers!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

Offline

#63 2011-08-27 19:58:03

gAr
Member
Registered: 2011-01-09
Posts: 3,478

Re: Hooked!

Yes, that would be wonderful!
Is the idea available in his site?

I'll see you after a little break.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

Offline

#64 2011-08-27 20:03:22

bobbym
Administrator
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 84,614

Re: Hooked!

Hi gAr;

No, it is not. He hints at it even in his videos. The discretists ( he is one, so am I ) do not believe in the concept of infinity, or the greek concept of proof.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

Offline

#65 2011-08-27 20:48:58

gAr
Member
Registered: 2011-01-09
Posts: 3,478

Re: Hooked!

Oh, okay.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

Offline

#66 2011-08-27 21:24:47

anonimnystefy
Real Member
From: The Foundation
Registered: 2011-05-23
Posts: 15,397

Re: Hooked!


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

Offline

#67 2011-08-27 22:05:08

gAr
Member
Registered: 2011-01-09
Posts: 3,478

Re: Hooked!

Hi,

Nice videos!


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

Offline

#68 2011-08-27 22:24:36

anonimnystefy
Real Member
From: The Foundation
Registered: 2011-05-23
Posts: 15,397

Re: Hooked!

yup.i love knots,especially celtic knots!

here's another link:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=314c-_7lX5s


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

Offline

#69 2012-07-27 23:55:58

bobbym
Administrator
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 84,614

Re: Hooked!

What a fascinating thread. Where do they come from? Knots, discretists, omerta, viciousness... A literal plethora of disjoint concepts.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

Offline

#70 2012-07-28 00:30:40

anonimnystefy
Real Member
From: The Foundation
Registered: 2011-05-23
Posts: 15,397

Re: Hooked!

Why did you dig this one out?


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

Offline

#71 2012-07-28 03:43:33

bobbym
Administrator
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 84,614

Re: Hooked!

Hmmm. You dig out old ones everyday...
But that is not why I did it. I was looking for an answer to your question in another thread. A search led me here. So, I read it and revived it.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

Offline

#72 2012-07-28 04:22:36

anonimnystefy
Real Member
From: The Foundation
Registered: 2011-05-23
Posts: 15,397

Re: Hooked!

Answer to which question?

In this thread also llies the answer to the question of your occupation. Which I now have copied to my phone. You can delete it and it won't be lost.


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

Offline

#73 2012-07-28 04:34:13

bobbym
Administrator
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 84,614

Re: Hooked!

You asked about the card discussion with ARB, GiB, Anthony R. Brown, MathGenius...

I am leaving the thread open, I did not give my present occupation away.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

Offline

#74 2012-07-28 05:03:36

anonimnystefy
Real Member
From: The Foundation
Registered: 2011-05-23
Posts: 15,397

Re: Hooked!

What did you search? Your posts about cards? roflol


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

Offline

#75 2012-07-28 05:04:59

bobbym
Administrator
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 84,614

Re: Hooked!

I assumed it was deleted. It was a dilly of a discussion.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

Offline

Board footer

Powered by FluxBB