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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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They take the same time.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Go to 100000, I am getting a marked difference then.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Ah, I see it.

So, Table is slower at getting 10 random numbers than RandomVariate?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, Random Variate is much faster. You try to avoid loops in M coding. Table is like a loop.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Hm, so, this should be faster than both:

`Count[RandomVariate[DiscreteUniformDistribution[{0, 1}], {100000, 10}], {___, 1, 1, 1, 1, ___}]`

right?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, I agree. But no simulation is even faster.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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That is true.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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First one in post #42 was the man until...

How fast is this?

```
1 - (RecurrenceTable[{a[n] ==
a[n - 1] + a[n - 2] + a[n - 3] + a[n - 4], a[1] == 2,
a[2] == 4, a[3] == 8, a[4] == 15}, a, {n, 1, 10}] // Last)/1024
```

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Could you explain it a bit?

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It is time for you to see something.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Sure. What is it I am to see?

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Something wonderful. I got that from 2010 the movie.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I haven't watched it. Or at least I do not remember watching it.

What is it?

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A great movie that modern people have not seen.

Do you know who --------- is?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I do not.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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This is my favorite:

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I still do not understand how you got that recurrence.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Experimental math of course! Did you read the link I sent you to?

Since you have seen it I am removing the link.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I read it and still do not understand the recurrence. But, if it is true then there is a closed form.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Solving that would be ugly beyond belief. Also, the recurrence and Fellers formula are sufficient for such a small problem.

The recurrence can be derived from the Markov chains but I do not remember how.

I derived them by counting up each a[k] individually and relying on the known fact for two coins in a row. M did the rest. Proof in the experimental sense was established using the methods of numerical analysis.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Sorry. I thought I saw a pattern that wasn't really there.

When can we get new problems in the Exercises threads? A friend of mine would like to see one which is not yet solved.

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One from me? As soon as I solve something of worth and interest.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Ok.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Who is your friend, may I ask?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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He is on the forum under the name danilodjokic997.

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