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#51 2013-02-17 22:11:01

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Re: The new dice pdf is out!

I have found a way to get rid of the GF, but it introduces a nasty sum.


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#52 2013-02-17 22:11:43

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Re: The new dice pdf is out!

What is the sum?


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#53 2013-02-17 22:22:42

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Re: The new dice pdf is out!

Doesn't simplify things much...

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#54 2013-02-17 22:24:32

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Re: The new dice pdf is out!

Yikes! Where did you get that from?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#55 2013-02-17 22:29:55

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Re: The new dice pdf is out!

Doesn't matter.

It's really ugly!


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#56 2013-02-17 22:32:43

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Re: The new dice pdf is out!

Doesn't matter.

Hmmmm.

For one thing it is useless for computation.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#57 2013-02-17 22:50:44

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Re: The new dice pdf is out!

Maybe it can be simplified further.


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#58 2013-02-17 22:56:38

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Re: The new dice pdf is out!

Maybe it can not.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#59 2013-02-17 23:04:46

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Re: The new dice pdf is out!

Maybe.


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#60 2013-02-17 23:15:02

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Re: The new dice pdf is out!

But that will not help as much as you think.

Hi gAr;

Sorry, did not see you up there.

I think we can't approximate it using e^(5x), since we are using coefficients beyond  the upper limit of the egf.

I agree, it did not work.

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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
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#61 2013-02-18 00:09:57

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Re: The new dice pdf is out!

Hi bobbym,

No problem.
I couldn't find a continuous distribution to approximate it. It's doubtful that a simplification exists, CAS is failing to guess, what more is left?!


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#62 2013-02-18 00:13:00

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Re: The new dice pdf is out!

what more is left?!

Pure dumb luck for me. They say out here, "I would rather be lucky than good!"

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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#63 2013-02-18 00:26:24

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Re: The new dice pdf is out!

Yes, I too must be lucky to find a formula for this!


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#64 2013-02-18 00:48:53

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Hi;

Maybe this guy can get it.

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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#65 2013-03-18 20:48:18

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Re: The new dice pdf is out!

There still seems to be a problem with the pluses...


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#66 2013-03-18 20:53:20

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Re: The new dice pdf is out!

Hi;

I am not following you. What pluses?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#67 2013-03-18 21:03:21

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Re: The new dice pdf is out!

Look at post #2.


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#68 2013-03-18 21:11:51

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Re: The new dice pdf is out!

Why do you think there is something wrong with it? Can you find an example?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#69 2013-03-18 21:22:25

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Re: The new dice pdf is out!

No, no. Technical problems. The pluses are missing!


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#70 2013-03-18 21:31:14

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Re: The new dice pdf is out!

Okay, work on it.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#71 2013-03-18 22:09:16

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Re: The new dice pdf is out!

No. I mean that the LaTeX is not working again! Didn't MIF fix it?


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#72 2013-03-18 22:20:19

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Re: The new dice pdf is out!

Hold on! Let me try.

It is working for me. What expression is giving you problems and post it in the thread where he will see it.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#73 2013-04-14 09:18:21

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Re: The new dice pdf is out!

Hi bobbym

Have you seen the 2's and 5's problem? It seems like a tough one.


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#74 2013-04-14 10:02:49

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Re: The new dice pdf is out!

You mean the DD problem?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#75 2013-04-14 10:16:03

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Re: The new dice pdf is out!

Be 34 it seems to.


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