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#1 2013-03-08 08:14:55

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s = ut +½at^2

So I want you to tell me why my way of doing is wrong : (a must be the subject)

-ut        s = ut +½at^2     -ut

/ ½t^2      s-ut=½a^t2  / ½t^2    (This is how I think I should have done it, because we want only the a, so you divide all in one shot)

s-ut/ ½t^2=a  ===> a=s-ut/ ½t^2

I Know this is the wrong answer, but explain me why my way of doing is wrong, because I have no idea why ! Thanks

#2 2013-03-08 08:27:04

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Hi;

Is this the question?

You want to solve for a?

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#3 2013-03-08 08:29:58

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I want 'a' to be the subject of the formula, I already did my way of doing, which is wrong, and would like to know wy it's wrong. Thanks

#4 2013-03-08 08:33:16

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Hi;

Just trying to get the exact question. You want a on the left by itself and that is the correct form in post #2.

This is the answer.

Last edited by bobbym (2013-03-08 08:36:09)

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#5 2013-03-08 08:37:05

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Yes, that's what I want, 'a' on the left of the formula.

#6 2013-03-08 08:43:02

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Hi;

Times everything by 2

Subtract 2ut from both sides

Divide by t^2.

Clean up.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#7 2013-03-08 08:47:20

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Oh wow.....It's clear now ! I understand now ^^  thanks. The way you present the formula is more clean, I got misleaded by my mess lol

#8 2013-03-08 08:50:06

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Hi;

Just remember I treated it algebraically. Like a bunch of letters. t must never be zero.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#9 2013-03-08 09:08:11

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Ok, by curiosity, do you know where I could practice more of these ?

#10 2013-03-08 09:09:14

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I could give you a few if you want or I will look up a page if there is one.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#11 2013-03-08 09:13:50

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That would be great, always looking to practice Anyway, I need to go
!  BYe

#12 2013-03-08 09:18:17

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Okay, here are three.

Make a the subject.

Or

Make b the subject.

And last!

Make b the subject.

Last edited by bobbym (2013-03-08 09:34:30)

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#13 2013-03-09 04:23:16

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i did the first one

a=s-ut^2

btw, do you have an article on these ? im having a hard time doing these ^^ ty

a(x)a-x/-2=b

b=1/u.a

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#14 2013-03-09 12:26:21

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I made them up for you.

You should get

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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#15 2013-03-09 15:45:36

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Oh man, I don't know why but I'm having trouble with these. I dont know where to begin and always get a different answer >.< And what I meant by article is something that tells how to approach rearranging formulas

#16 2013-03-09 19:09:17

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Hi;

Follow along with what I do:

Subtract u from both sides.

Clean the denominator on the right, t*a*t^2 = a*t^3.

Multiply both sides by a

Divide both sides by (s - u)

Last edited by bobbym (2013-03-09 19:22:11)

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#17 2013-03-10 04:30:31

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is the third one a=ub/2 ??? hope i got it

#18 2013-03-10 04:32:23

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Hi Al-Allo

You should have a on the left hand side. And the expression you got that isn't correct either.

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#19 2013-03-10 04:32:45

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Hi;

That is not correct. What was your first step?

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#20 2013-03-10 04:38:11

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here is what I did : (like I said, Im not sure how to begin these, to many steps, but the simple ones I can easily do them)

*bu 1/a=1/b+1/u *bu

*a 1/a *bu= 2 *a

bu/2=2a/2

a=bu/2

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#21 2013-03-10 04:42:21

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Hi;

Okay, let's follow your idea and times both sides by bu.

You should get:

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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#22 2013-03-10 04:44:39

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OKay, but isn't it supposed to be 1+1 on the right side ?...

#23 2013-03-10 04:49:08

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Hi;

No, you are cancelling too much. let's see what happens just on the left.

Now cancel the b in the first fraction.

Are you okay up to here?

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#24 2013-03-10 04:51:29

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AHHHHHHHHHH... okay that why. Mh bobbym, could we continue later this way of doing ? Because I need to go like now. We shall continue later, when I'm online ? Thanks for your help

#25 2013-03-10 04:59:18

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Okay, I will see you later. Have a good day.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.