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Infront of you lie 10 coins one of which is biased

You take a random coin and toss it 5 times.

It results H for all 5 times

Now, what is the probability that this coin is biased?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi Agnishom;

Was the probability of head using the biased coin provided?

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The biased coin always results in a head

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.** **A number by itself is useful, but it is far more useful to know how accurate or certain that number is.**

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Logic?

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It seems that this is not correct. Do you want the exact wording of the problem?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I just had a small conversation about this with anonimnystefy. I thought I was a frequentist but no, I am a Bayesian!

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I can't understand

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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It is Bayesian analysis. It is on the difficult side if you are seeing it for the first time.

I will attempt to explain it but first, did I get the right answer?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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If it is correct, it is a simple application of Bayes' theorem.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, that is what I used.

Agnishom wrote:

It seems that this is not correct. Do you want the exact wording of the problem?

Yes!

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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It seems you posted while I was posting.

It is interesting how weird a result it can produce!

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Okay I attach it.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Wait a minute! This question say fair coin. Your original question asked for biased coin.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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Everything is good except the fact that you got the guy the probability of the coin being biased!

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Agnishom wrote:

Now, what is the probability that this coin is biased?

That is what his original question asked for in post #1.

Just take the complement. 9 / 41 and add that. You get 50.

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Okay 50 thanks

Anyway, what I actually need to know is how to do the problem...

Which I can't make any idea of

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi Agnishom;

There is a formula to do these. You just plug in. This makes it very simple.

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Please teach me the formula

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

X = hhhhh

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X occur?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Please look at post #20.

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Thanks its womderful

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Do you see how each value for the formula is computed?

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Yes

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