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You toss 25 coins.

What is the expected number of consecutive pair of heads?

Clarfication: for example, in a series of 6 coins if the result is HHTHHH then the number of consecutive pair of heads is 3

The answer is 6 according to an experiment......

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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The actual answer is 24*1/4=6 as well.

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Hmm .... How to do this?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

You use the linearity of expectation.

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But I do not know about it!

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Okay, I will tell you what I know and please pay close attention to my signature.

Let Xi = 1 if the ith and (i+1)th coins are both heads, 0 otherwise, for i= 1,2,...,24.

E(Xi) = (1/2)(1/2) = 1/4.

Then the expected number of matches is

E(number of adj pairs) = 24 * (1/4) = 6.

Here we have used the theorem that E(X+Y) = E(X) +E(Y), which is true even if X and Y are not independent.

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What won't you tell those fools?

That explanation went away tangentially over my head.

What is this Xi?

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One minute, I went to the restroom and thought about it.

It seems I got the idea now

The probability that a coin and its next coin both are H is (1/4)

And as there are 24 coins (since there is no coin after the 25th), the Expected number of consecutive pair of heads is (1/4)*24

Have I got it correct?

Anyway whats xi?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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What won't you tell those fools?

Hey, that is pretty funny!

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Please see #8

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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That is the idea! You can multiply them because of the linearity of expectation.

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What does that mean?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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When you are multiplying by 24 you are actually adding 24 things up.

E(x+y) = E(x)+E(y)

E(x+y+z)=E(x)+E(y)+E(z)

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Yay got it

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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You are a very clever person.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

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Are we still on the new s erver?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, I believe so.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

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Hope you have already figured out, but in case you haven't : my exams just ended on March 22, 2013 1:35 PM IST

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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How did you do?

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

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Everything was okay except maths.

I am also afraid about Nky

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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What are you afraid of and why was math a problem?

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

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Math was a problem because:

1. We had to finish a 90 marks paper within 3 hours. Which is lengthy enough for maths.

2. I have a tendency to make silly mistakes which are further enhanced by point 1. as I didn't have time to revise the paper

3. I may have forgotten to do a trivial (or a nontrivial) in my paper.

4. I could not solve a problem, which carried four marks.

Moreover, everyone expects me to do extremely good in math

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Sounds like a lot of pressure. You need a vacation.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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I have got a vacation.

The results of the exams are on 11th April and our new sessions start from the 12th

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Oh, very good. I am being called away to do a chore. See you in a bit.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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