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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Can somebody explain contour integration to me a little bit?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Do you want to see it work or you want a theoretical discussion?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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An example would be nice.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Please integrate that.

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**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
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Stefy, check this out:

http://walet.phy.umist.ac.uk/MaMe/MMA/Contour.pdf

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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bobbym wrote:

Please integrate that.

How do I do that?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Get the poles first.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Okay, that is the easy part.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Take the positive 2, do you know why?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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No...

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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The limits of integration are positive so we only take the positive poles.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Since when can complex numbers be positive and negative? Do you want their real parts to be positive or...?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I get the poles like this

You take the ones that do not have a minus sign in front. See the drawing provided later to tell which poles to use.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I think those are the 1. and 3. in my list.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Now get the residue of those two poles. This is done in a couple of ways. I prefer the formula. If you like your own way use it.

If you chose the right ones (the ones in red ) you will get:

Once you have the residues you are almost done. Tell me when you get mine.

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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hi bobbym,

Would you mind explaining how to get the 'residues' ? Thanks.

Bob

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

One way uses the Laurent series. I do not know it offhand. The other way zetafunc and I were using just a couple of days ago. It is just a formula. Hold on while I get it.

As usual I did not write it down but Wiki has it:

where c is a pole and n is its order.

Ex:

has 2 poles i and -i. To get the residue of i we say n =1 and c = i.

The whole formula simplifies to

which equals - i / 2

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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Many thanks.

Give me a week or so to get my brain around all of this and I may have more questions.

Bob

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

I added some stuff to post #17.

Give me a week or so to get my brain around all of this

If you can get it in a week then you will have far surpassed me. I never did get it, despite having it explained to me at least 5 times!

Rule 1 of my signature applies! To some, it only applies maybe 3 or 4 times. For me I stopped counting after 10000.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Hi bobbym

Yes, I am getting those residues. What now?

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Sum the residues, and multiply the sum by 2iπ.

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Hi zeta;

I was going to ask you to come in here and help out. We were just working on this!

Hi anonimnystefy;

Normally 2 π i but here we are only taking half the contour so it is π i

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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pi*sqrt(2)/4?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Correct! Wunderbar!

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Yes, I have. Did you see post #23?

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