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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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Here's a very nice little puzzle with a difference.

"There are no instructions to this puzzle, so you must use your intuition and creative thinking to solve it."

Enjoy!

"The good news about computers is that they do what you tell them to do. The bad news is that they do what you tell them to do." - Ted Nelson

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi phrontister;

Very good puzzle... Can you solve another?

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.**

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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Hi Bobby,

I only found this puzzle yesterday after following a link from another site, and I haven't tried any other puzzles yet.

With "I/O" my time is something like yours, but it won't record my score in seconds, only in multiples of minutes. I've tried it in Chrome and Firefox.

"The good news about computers is that they do what you tell them to do. The bad news is that they do what you tell them to do." - Ted Nelson

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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You got me. I cheated.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.**

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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Yes...you should have used a font closer to the puzzle's.

"The good news about computers is that they do what you tell them to do. The bad news is that they do what you tell them to do." - Ted Nelson

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, but any attempt to do a good job there would really be cheating and would kill the joke.

I still do not get the puzzle.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.**

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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Good joke! I didn't see it immediately.

The puzzle takes some nutting out to work out what's going on.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Can you solve another?

That is why I wrote that. I figured it would not take you long.

It looks like a page that MIF made for some kind of programmable machine.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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I think it's a link to one of MIF's flow charts.

The puzzle took me quite some time last night to solve, and more again to try to get a good score. An enjoyable, challenging, brain teaser.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Tough problem since it does not have any instructions. Not that I would read them anyway. Over here you prove your manliness by never asking directions, never reading instructions or by not crying when stung by a bee.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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...and by eating quiche: "Real men eat quiche".

I just shaved 25% off my previous best score (not the time taken) to solve I/O.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

I am going to shave off some pastrami from the pile my brother just brought in. I am going to eat, see you later.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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Sounds very delicious! I don't recall ever having it.

Just trimmed my solution down a further 3%.

About to have lunch, and then going out for a few hours. C.u.L8r.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi phrontister;

It is supposed to be Italian but who knows.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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A gourmet/connoisseur of Italian foods, perhaps?

Shaved my solution process down some more and also reduced the time to about 28 seconds, which confused the puzzle into thinking I'd spent no time on it at all! Videoed it with SnagIt, too.

*Last edited by phrontister (2013-04-21 04:16:22)*

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Not exactly a connoisseur or a gourmet.

So you are down to 0 seconds. No one is going to beat that.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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Not unless they used your trick.

I think the timer needs an overhaul.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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They just better be ready for my time of 111 minutes.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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So you solved it while I was out, then?

If you had the puzzle as an app on your iPhone and the puzzle's timer was linked to the phone's date&time, and you flew east in a hurry while solving the puzzle, you could, provided that the phone's clock was set to 'auto zone' & 'auto time', and provided also that you didn't cross the GMT meridian, get a negative time (I think). Legally.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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No, solution yet, I am clicking on things like mad though.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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That's exactly how I solved it! I wonder what the chances of that were.

Bedzzz

*Last edited by phrontister (2013-04-21 05:07:17)*

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I have been very unlucky then...

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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Yes, very!! At some stage you must have been soooooo close, yet soooooo far!

I don't know how to calculate the probability of something like this, but it would have to be less than a googolplexth, wouldn't it?.

I'd advise that to avoid repeats of failed moves you should list them on a bit of paper (you might have to use more than just one page...or just turn the page over and write on the back), and that you maintain the list in some sort of order. That would help cut down on a fair bit of wasted effort.

And hopefully you'll strike it lucky before trying all the possibilities.

*Last edited by phrontister (2013-04-21 11:31:08)*

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I had a big break and then something to eat. I am trying again.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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Did you miss the wink that I left off my previous post?

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