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#101 2013-11-24 19:48:41

bobbym
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Re: Probability problem.

Hi;

There might be a recursion for it...


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#102 2013-11-24 20:10:24

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Re: Probability problem.

I too thought so.


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#103 2013-11-24 20:30:54

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Re: Probability problem.

Hi;

I have a recurrence that he spit out but I do not understand it!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#104 2013-11-24 21:23:27

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Re: Probability problem.

What is that recurrence?


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#105 2013-11-24 21:37:21

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Re: Probability problem.

Hi gAr;

It is large and I have not made it post ready yet. I will need some time and then I will post it. Also, I need to eat. See you later.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#106 2013-11-24 21:38:06

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Re: Probability problem.

Okay, see you later.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#107 2013-11-24 23:19:43

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Re: Probability problem.

Hi;

Got some of it to work, but some I do not understand.

with


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#108 2013-11-24 23:45:01

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Re: Probability problem.

Oh, not so pleasing to the eyes, is it?!
Summation is much shorter.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#109 2013-11-24 23:47:13

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Re: Probability problem.

That one is better then my sum!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#110 2013-11-25 00:17:13

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Re: Probability problem.

I did not know there was another way to write the sum!
What method you used to get the sum?


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#111 2013-11-25 00:35:08

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Re: Probability problem.

It is all mixed up in a routine that I wrote to compute the binomial distribution sums. I can use the function but I can no longer unravel what I did. It works but I forget how. I am sorry, back then I did not believe in documenting anything.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#112 2013-11-25 00:45:34

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Re: Probability problem.

Okay, I'll document my method of g.f here


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#113 2013-11-25 00:51:41

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Re: Probability problem.

Hi;

Where did you get the gf from? Make it yourself?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#114 2013-11-25 01:56:52

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Re: Probability problem.

Hi,

Yes, I think that gf straightforward enough.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#115 2013-11-25 02:13:05

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Re: Probability problem.

Very good! Thanks for giving that to me.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#116 2013-11-25 02:34:03

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Re: Probability problem.

You're welcome!


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#117 2013-12-04 19:26:06

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Re: Probability problem.

New problem:
A point 'P' inside a unit circle is chosen at random.
a) A direction is chosen at random at P and a line is drawn from P to the point in the circumference 'Q' in that direction. What is the expected length of the line segment PQ ?
b)  A direction is chosen at random at the center and a line is drawn from P to the point in the circumference 'Q' in that direction. What is the expected length of the line segment PQ ?


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#118 2013-12-05 00:49:03

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Re: Probability problem.

Hi gAr;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#119 2013-12-05 02:13:11

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Re: Probability problem.

Hi bobbym,


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#120 2013-12-05 02:22:23

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Re: Probability problem.

Hi;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#121 2013-12-05 02:30:54

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Re: Probability problem.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#122 2013-12-05 02:35:06

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Re: Probability problem.

Hi gAr;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#123 2013-12-05 02:40:56

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Re: Probability problem.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#124 2013-12-05 02:42:23

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Re: Probability problem.

Hi gAr


I am getting something around
for the answer.


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#125 2013-12-05 02:47:24

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Re: Probability problem.

Hi gAr;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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