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## #51 2014-06-03 08:33:38

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Then that is the point, the warning is extraneous since a legitimate problem might not have a solution.

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## #52 2014-06-03 08:36:12

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## #53 2014-06-03 14:36:29

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Hi Bobby and Shivam. Yes, doing it that way with the 'correction' tab in post #1 should work well.

It will also help with scalpel hair preservation, eliminate dental visits related to bruxism and contribute to the fight against global warming.

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## #54 2014-06-03 19:06:44

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Okay, the first 2 I get. Global warming?

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## #55 2014-06-04 01:45:18

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Working on the 'corrected' version will generate much less 'frustration heat' compared with that of spending fruitless time wrestling with (and stewing/pondering over) a puzzle that seemingly is unsolvable, and, given MIF's puzzles' popularity and the therefore-expected huge number of would-be solvers of this puzzle, the total amount of such heat saved should be a very significant amount indeed.

So, conservatively and without overstating anything, I'd estimate that the mean temperature of the earth will drop at least very slightly, if not a bit more (or maybe a bit less).

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## #56 2014-06-04 02:01:43

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Then I am all for it. We must lower the mean temperature and lower the mean people as well. Meanness must be stamped out.

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## #57 2014-06-04 21:15:03

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I see what you mean!

Btw, 'meane', 'mein', 'mene', 'mesne' and 'mien' are all homophones of 'mean'.

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## #58 2014-06-04 22:44:44

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Btw, 'meane', 'mein', 'mene', 'mesne' and 'mien' are all homophones of 'mean'.

With my typing, I have been treating them as equals.

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## #59 2014-06-04 23:51:51

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That's where human 'context recognition' comes to the fore/4/faugh/faw/for/four.

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## #60 2014-06-05 07:38:44

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I cnduo't bvleiee taht I culod aulaclty uesdtannrd waht I was rdnaieg. Unisg the icndeblire pweor of the hmuan mnid, aocdcrnig to rseecrah at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mttaer in waht oderr the lterets in a wrod are, the olny irpoamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rhgit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whoutit a pboerlm. Tihs is bucseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey ltteer by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Aaznmig, huh? Yaeh and I awlyas tghhuot slelinpg was ipmorantt! See if yuor fdreins can raed tihs too.

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## #61 2014-06-05 07:41:22

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Hi;

Yes, I can read that but at a bit of a speed reduction. Suggesting that at least for me some computation to reorder the letters is happening.

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## #62 2014-06-05 11:57:20

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Yes, I can read that too...with some rearranging pauses here and there.

Iv'e (obverse ahtoopprse pioiotsn-pblmrsaeuy i'ts ltaemiitge) aaedrly rvieeecd shneoimtg slaiimr form eensoom how tguhhot I'd lkie it. ): (seilmy is fcark-to-bnut...sheetul'slurpsl sopt taht).

Waht auobt hoeatnnhpyis, scuh as "w-wllokenn" (sudnos saoemhwt Gmraen).

Csilllimooquas mhgit aslo be clgaihnnelg (try "gmueapzd", mnnaieg "tnimrpug the ciottoipemn").

Can you "slitl raed it whuotit a pbelrom"? ('qteoud' form oaiingrl pgsaase).

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Here's the solution, but I'll hide it in case anyone would like to try to unravel the tangle themselves:

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## #63 2014-06-05 11:59:36

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Much more difficult and I can only read part of it.

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## #64 2014-06-05 12:05:32

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The one I posted is readable for me with a few pauses.

The one posted by phronister is unreadable.

A lot of examples at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typoglycemia

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## #65 2014-06-05 18:55:59

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Typoglycemia?

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## #66 2014-06-05 23:43:41

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Typoglycemia:

Wikipedia article here.
Also gets a guernsey in the 'Worthless word for the day-an obscure words refactory' website here.

And...there are typoglycemia generators/scramblers available on the net.

I didn't look very far, but I haven't found the word in any dictionaries yet.

I've edited post #62 to now include the solution to the tangle that I posted there.

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## #67 2014-06-06 01:10:59

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It appears that is a good memory jogger. Once I have read the line translated and I come back to the encoded line I can read it easily.

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## #68 2014-06-06 05:37:24

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The passing of time will heal that and restore your memory once again to that of a normal human's.

But yes, for a while at least, that happens to me too, with the translation leaping out at me automatically. And then my mind tricks me into wondering why anyone would find it so difficult to translate the passage that I now understand so easily; so much so, that at times I feel the need to revise the encoded version to try and make it harder.

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## #69 2014-06-06 05:56:55

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There are methods that make readable code and use less letters.

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## #70 2014-06-06 06:17:16

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e.g. ?

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## #71 2014-06-06 06:40:20

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I used to see ads on trains for "if u cn rd ths thn u cn b a scrtry"

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## #72 2014-06-06 22:22:08

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I c! So dats whr de txtng lngge evlutn strtd!

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## #73 2014-06-07 00:16:03

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It was a long while back.

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## #74 2014-06-07 01:13:56

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But these days, with the social media training that starts as soon as they're out of nappies, any 10-year-old cd b a scrtry.

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## #75 2014-06-07 01:52:55

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