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#1 2013-10-18 20:42:45

Agnishom
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We have extra Gold

In our country, a Sanyasi has claimed that there are 1000 tonnes of Gold buried at a place described by him which he realised after an ancient King told him that in his dreams.
The government is now digging that area enthusiastically.


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#2 2013-10-18 21:09:57

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Re: We have extra Gold

What area?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#3 2013-10-18 21:19:34

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Re: We have extra Gold


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#4 2013-10-18 21:26:41

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Re: We have extra Gold

government machinery will have to shun superstitions in future and repose its faith back in reason

Kaboobly doo! The same yellow journalism that grew here has spread like a cancer throughout the world.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#5 2013-10-18 22:14:09

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Re: We have extra Gold

They are mad. They are really digging.


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#6 2013-10-18 22:19:03

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Re: We have extra Gold

You do not believe in ancient wisdom? That there may be other ways besides the narrow viewpoint called reason?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#7 2013-10-18 22:28:52

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Re: We have extra Gold

Reason is not narrow!

You mean he has a superhuman intelligence?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#8 2013-10-18 22:34:18

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Re: We have extra Gold

Reason is the beginning of wisdom, not the end.

You mean he has a superhuman intelligence?

Is that impossible? Is it even difficult?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#9 2013-10-18 22:41:48

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Re: We have extra Gold

Okay, what is wisdom?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#10 2013-10-18 22:45:12

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Re: We have extra Gold

Do you think, if I tell them about the gold in my back garden, they'll come over and dig it for me?  smile

Bob


You cannot teach a man anything;  you can only help him find it within himself..........Galileo Galilei

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#11 2013-10-18 22:48:17

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Re: We have extra Gold

bob bundy wrote:

Do you think, if I tell them about the gold in my back garden, they'll come over and dig it for me?  smile

Bob

You only need to be a Sanyasi


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#12 2013-10-18 22:51:38

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Re: We have extra Gold

It is the acquisition of experience and knowledge.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#13 2013-10-18 22:56:47

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Re: We have extra Gold

Quote: bobbym

"Is it even difficult"

WRB

No, very vry improbable


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#14 2013-10-18 22:59:41

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Re: We have extra Gold

You only need to be a Sanyasi

But then, I think, I'd have to give up my garden.  sad

Bob


You cannot teach a man anything;  you can only help him find it within himself..........Galileo Galilei

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#15 2013-10-18 23:00:06

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Re: We have extra Gold

Really? If you were to find out that there are billions of creatures that have a degree of intelligence that makes man appear no smarter than a chimp is to us, how would react?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#16 2013-10-18 23:03:55

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Re: We have extra Gold

bob bundy wrote:

You only need to be a Sanyasi

But then, I think, I'd have to give up my garden.  sad

Bob

Why did you bury it there in the first place? roll


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#17 2013-10-18 23:07:23

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Re: We have extra Gold

To bobbym

Quote:bobbym
"Really? If you were to find out that there are billions of creatures that have a degree of intelligence that makes man appear no smarter than a chimp is to us, how would react?"

A. R. B.
I would be astonished. But no one has ever seen any evidence of those creatures, so why make weird assumptions?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#18 2013-10-18 23:14:57

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Re: We have extra Gold

Why did you bury it there in the first place?

What?  The gold?  If I had gold I wouldn't be trying to grow my own vegetables.  smile

Do you understand the word "gullible"?

Bob


You cannot teach a man anything;  you can only help him find it within himself..........Galileo Galilei

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#19 2013-10-18 23:17:06

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Re: We have extra Gold

so why make weird assumptions?

Because that which you call a weird assumption is a point of view I call thinking outside the box. It is a very important method of reasoning I use everyday in experimental mathematics. It is one I hope to pass on to you.

Have you heard of the Drake equation? Do you know that Carl Sagan estimated that were probably many civilizations living within 300 light years or so that would be more advanced than man. They estimate about 1 million such civilzations in this galaxy alone.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#20 2013-10-18 23:33:20

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Re: We have extra Gold

To bob bundy

Quote: bob bundy

"Do you understand the word "gullible"?"

A.R.B.
I looked it up.

Did you read the moral tale about a father who instructed his sons to dig their backyards for gold as a child?

To bobbym

Maybe that was correct. But since I am near human intelligence, I cannot comprehend the highly extra-human intelligence. (I am speAKIng about myself, because I know nothing about you). So, for now I do not have any way to find the truth and thus it is better to rely on normal reasoning rather than paranormal.


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#21 2013-10-18 23:38:31

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Re: We have extra Gold

So, for now I do not have any way to find the truth and thus it is better to rely on normal reasoning rather than paranormal.

Do you know that American police use such people on their most difficult cases? They have a record that is good. Do you know that the military funds these paranormal experiments to the tune of many millions of dollars?

What is paranormal about the Drake equation and Carl Sagan. You surely have heard of SETI?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#22 2013-10-18 23:47:10

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Re: We have extra Gold

What is the Drake Equation and Carl Sagan?
Nah, what is SETI?

Also, I am not at all fond of the American law enforcement agencies, they are terrible. I wish there could be more people who did math than want to control others


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#23 2013-10-18 23:50:58

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Re: We have extra Gold

The Drake equation is an equation put together by a scientist to try and estimate the number of inhabitable planets in the universe.

Carl Sagan is a famous Astrophysicist.

SETI is the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence. It is funded privately and by NASA. There is also a joint effort on the internet.

I wish there could be more people who did math than want to control others

But that is not the point. Today's Paranormal will be the commonsense of the future.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#24 2013-10-19 00:42:13

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Re: We have extra Gold

Okay, explain the Drake Equation in detail with simpliity


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#25 2013-10-19 00:46:24

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Re: We have extra Gold

It is nothing but a simplistic probability formula:


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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