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Last edited by Agnishom (20131114 03:47:44) 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #2 20131114 03:49:41
Re: Interesting ConversationUniverse did not come out of nothingness. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #3 20131114 04:04:57
Re: Interesting ConversationThen what was there before the bang? 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #4 20131114 04:43:35
Re: Interesting ConversationI would explain to him that the universe did not come out of nothingness. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #5 20131114 05:13:13
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This is the view of Roger Penrose the discoverer. Of course he ia a little late, the Hindu's knew that each universe is just a single breath or a single nightday of the Brahma, created and destroyed forever.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #7 20131114 12:14:20
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Then, explain it to me too.
Aren't the existence of both of those a perception of the human brain? 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #8 20131114 12:19:48
Re: Interesting ConversationNope, there was a universe before humans and there will be many after them. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #9 20131114 12:31:49
Re: Interesting ConversationI've heard of that one. But those things should not be interpreted literally. 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #10 20131114 12:36:12
Re: Interesting ConversationWhy not? Do we really know? And how does it effect our daily life because we are right or wrong about Big Bang? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #11 20131114 12:49:58
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It doesn't.
We really do not know but the people who gave those theories long ago were power greedy and wanted to manipulate the people because they were stupid. Todays theories may not be correct but are definitely better because we know why they have come. 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #12 20131114 12:55:08
Re: Interesting ConversationI hope you are right about that but I do not believe it. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #13 20131114 19:45:51
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That way of thinking seems like reductio ad Hitlerum. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #14 20131114 23:04:07
Re: Interesting ConversationWhich way of thinking? Mine or those ancient folks? 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #15 20131115 02:47:57
Re: Interesting ConversationReductio ad Hitlerum? I am not familiar with that term. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #16 20131115 03:16:08
Re: Interesting ConversationBecause Stefy just created it.
'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #17 20131115 03:30:24
Re: Interesting ConversationIf I were the science teacher ( ghastly thought ) I would answer the student with post #5. Or maybe, the story of the grasshopper at the boy's feet... In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #18 20131115 03:34:33
Re: Interesting ConversationThat story with the backtrack quote? 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #19 20131115 03:39:20
Re: Interesting ConversationThe backtrack quote? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #20 20131115 03:57:16
Re: Interesting ConversationWhat is the grasshopper story? 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #21 20131115 04:04:31
Re: Interesting ConversationSo you are the student? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #22 20131115 04:10:26
Re: Interesting ConversationYou mean the nerd? 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #23 20131115 04:16:02
Re: Interesting ConversationYes, that is not necessarily a bad thing being a nerd. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #24 20131115 04:17:13
Re: Interesting ConversationI know. Anyway, I was not that person. He is different. 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #25 20131115 04:20:17
Re: Interesting ConversationHe sounds like you.
but is not what you want then can you describe what you are asking so I can understand it? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. 