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#26 2014-09-07 05:10:51

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Re: Balance it if you possibly can

So, how dextrous and accurate one is at manoeuvring the cursor can significantly affect the time score.


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#27 2014-09-07 05:12:00

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Re: Balance it if you possibly can

And how! That is why I told you about it.


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#28 2014-09-07 10:38:42

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Re: Balance it if you possibly can

Thanks for thinking of me! smile

I've enjoyed trying to nut out a strategy that would work for me and ended up with one that I was pretty happy with.

I probably can't improve much on my score because of the sheer amount of time taken up by all the data entry and weights placement.

But a 7-year-old adroit cursor manoeuvrer with handy comptometrist skills would probably kill my score...once they learn to count.

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#29 2014-09-07 18:32:09

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Re: Balance it if you possibly can

I just wrote the whole thingie up in M and had him do the calculating for me. The problem was moving the weights. Anyways the reputation of the forum has been met, the OP's score was beaten.


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If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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#30 2014-09-07 22:27:55

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Re: Balance it if you possibly can

Hi Bobby,

bobbym wrote:

I emailed them with that suggestion about multiple weights but they did not like it.

Pity. I hope they get a flood of complaints from people who develop RSI from moving all those weights.

I place weights that make up half the total weight onto the lhs scale, and am then left with the task of placing all the rest onto the rhs scale. A one-grab action for that second lot would have saved a lot of time and might have encouraged me to play the game again had that repetitive weight-placement activity not been so jolly time-consuming.


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#31 2014-09-07 22:31:36

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Re: Balance it if you possibly can

I agree, a more efficient scheme would cut time off the solution. 30 minutes is way too long for the game.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#32 2014-09-12 02:09:00

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Re: Balance it if you possibly can

Hi;

Improved my score! smile

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#33 2014-09-12 02:16:21

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Re: Balance it if you possibly can

The OP posted in another thread his new best score it was around my time so yours is the best so far.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#34 2014-09-12 02:25:44

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Re: Balance it if you possibly can

So he bettered his original time by about 9 minutes. That's a very good improvement.


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#35 2014-09-12 02:29:25

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Re: Balance it if you possibly can

Putting his score roughly equal to mine. Such a result probably indicates that he is automating his solution.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#36 2014-09-12 02:59:44

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Re: Balance it if you possibly can

Maybe, but my first score of 29:32 was just with a calculator, and there are umpteen sharper bodies and minds out there than mine that would bury my score.

My second score was with M's help. I'd hoped it would be better, so maybe I'll try again - once my body recovers sufficiently after moving all those weights...one by one.


"The good news about computers is that they do what you tell them to do. The bad news is that they do what you tell them to do." - Ted Nelson

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#37 2014-09-12 04:38:25

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Re: Balance it if you possibly can

At 27, I doubt there are many sharper minds and bodies than yours.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#38 2014-09-12 12:24:40

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Re: Balance it if you possibly can

Some competitive 27-y-o, or younger, will post here one day with a stunning score to prove me right...MMW. And you might, too! smile


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#39 2014-09-12 12:28:50

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Re: Balance it if you possibly can

I say it is not likely that my wrinkled up fingers will top that.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#40 2014-09-13 22:15:10

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Re: Balance it if you possibly can

Hi;

Getting better... smile

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#41 2014-09-13 22:18:51

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Re: Balance it if you possibly can

Just dexterity or did you find something?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#42 2014-09-13 22:34:31

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Re: Balance it if you possibly can

I'd like to try to better


That'll have to wait...busy for the next couple of hours or so.

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#43 2014-09-13 22:36:17

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Re: Balance it if you possibly can

Just dexterity, which has improved with time as that last one was about my 5th go at it.


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#44 2014-09-14 01:40:48

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Re: Balance it if you possibly can

I wrote them again about the weights.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#45 2014-09-14 03:40:48

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Re: Balance it if you possibly can

Hi! smile

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#46 2014-09-14 03:44:08

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Re: Balance it if you possibly can

Incredible! There is no longer any sense in looking further. Wunderbar!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#47 2014-09-14 21:05:59

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Re: Balance it if you possibly can

Hi Bobby,

There is no longer any sense in looking further.

Couldn't resist picking up that senseless gauntlet...

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#48 2014-09-15 00:03:01

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Re: Balance it if you possibly can

Which inputting system did you decide on?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#49 2014-09-15 02:27:19

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Re: Balance it if you possibly can

M's latest version.


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#50 2014-09-15 02:30:37

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Re: Balance it if you possibly can

You have done well.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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