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**cooljackiec****Member**- Registered: 2012-12-13
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A bag has marbles of 4 colors: red, white, blue, and green. Assume that if we take four marbles out at random (without replacement), each of the following is equally likely:

(1) one marble of each color is chosen,

(2) one white, one blue, and two reds are chosen,

(3) one blue and three reds are chosen,

(4) all four are red.

What is the smallest possible number of marbles in the bag?

I see you have graph paper.

You must be plotting something

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
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Hi;

Sorry, I could not meet the time, I was sleeping.

The smallest I can come up with is a bag containing 11 reds, 3 whites, 2 blues and 5 greens.

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**cooljackiec****Member**- Registered: 2012-12-13
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Its okay, I got 21

I see you have graph paper.

You must be plotting something

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Sorry, that is what I got too, I meant 3 whites not 4!

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**Tpetrie01****Guest**

Sorry, I know this post is old - but can you give me a hint as to how you figured this problem out, bobbym? I've got a similar problem and i want to know which direction i should be thinking in.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

You would use the multivariate hypergeometric distribution. After that you would try it until you found the right number. This would require some trial and error best done by computer.

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**Tpetrie01****Guest**

Thanks! This helps a lot.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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You know how to use the multivariate hypergeometric?

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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