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Re: The new dice pdf is out!Be sure to tell if you get an idea! The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #27 20130218 04:54:10
Re: The new dice pdf is out!I have something. It will take some time. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #28 20130218 05:03:10
Re: The new dice pdf is out!Can you post just the beginning steps? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #29 20130218 06:10:03
Re: The new dice pdf is out!Calculation is running, it will take a while. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #30 20130218 06:11:20
Re: The new dice pdf is out!Post when it's done. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #31 20130218 06:27:57
Re: The new dice pdf is out!Hi; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #32 20130218 06:28:33
Re: The new dice pdf is out!What procedure? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #33 20130218 06:29:43
Re: The new dice pdf is out!An attempt to develope an asymptotic form that would have eliminated the coefficient part of your maxima code. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #34 20130218 06:30:10
Re: The new dice pdf is out!Can you elaborate? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #35 20130218 06:34:31
Re: The new dice pdf is out!Instead of picking out the i  k power of x out of the expansion. For large k, I figured that expansion would approach (e^x)^5. The coefficient of x^(ik) of that is 5^(ik) / (ik)!. For large k this would have replaced expanding a big polynomial raised to the 5th power. Unfortunately, it did not work. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #36 20130218 06:35:32
Re: The new dice pdf is out!Why not? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #37 20130218 06:41:03
Re: The new dice pdf is out!I do not know. I tested it for k = 20, 30 , 40 , 50, 60, 100, 200. It did not asymptotically approach the exact answer. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #38 20130218 06:43:18
Re: The new dice pdf is out!I guess that there are too many terms that contribute to the x^(ik) term. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #39 20130218 06:57:13
Re: The new dice pdf is out!I am not sure, I will think about it. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #40 20130218 11:06:09
Re: The new dice pdf is out!Hi bobbym The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #41 20130218 20:05:56
Re: The new dice pdf is out!
I am not following you. He does not always use Markov chains. Your method is a standard method, even though I do not know what he means by that. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #42 20130218 20:08:41
Re: The new dice pdf is out!Hi bobbym The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #43 20130218 20:16:01
Re: The new dice pdf is out!Hi; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #44 20130218 20:24:42
Re: The new dice pdf is out!Again you misunderstood me. He said that, if the answer is a classical one, then he doesn't need it. He obviously wants the second part of 10th problem to be with Markov chains. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #45 20130218 20:28:00
Re: The new dice pdf is out!That is impossible, the next one would require a 4097 x 4097 matrix! In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #46 20130218 20:30:35
Re: The new dice pdf is out!I meant for the 3 case. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #47 20130218 20:34:22
Re: The new dice pdf is out!Hi bobbym, Last edited by gAr (20130218 20:35:14) "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  Buddha? "Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay." #48 20130218 20:34:44
Re: The new dice pdf is out!He already solved the 3 case. It took a 730 x 730 matrix. He will never get a general answer as you did using Markov chains. Last edited by bobbym (20130218 20:35:33) In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #49 20130218 20:41:08
Re: The new dice pdf is out!
Yes, but it seems he wanted to show how Markov chains work on particularly that problem. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #50 20130218 20:46:17
Re: The new dice pdf is out!Hi; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. 