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#1 2017-02-21 11:13:43

adpqadpq
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3D Geometry Help Please

Lisa, a child with strange requirements for her projects, is making a rectangular cardboard box with square bases. She wants the height of the box to be 3 units greater than the side of the square bases. What should the height be if she wants the surface area of the box to be at least 90 square units while using the least amount of cardboard?

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#2 2017-02-21 20:38:19

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Re: 3D Geometry Help Please

hi adpqadpq

You could call the size of the base 'x' and form an inequality for x squared using this information.  So that would answer the question if we are meant to dis-regard  any cut off wastage. 

But if we have to start with a sheet of cardboard and design a net for the box with minimum wastage this will be harder to determine.  Please clarify.

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#3 2017-02-22 11:39:18

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Re: 3D Geometry Help Please

Yeah disregard any wastage

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#4 2017-02-22 18:37:35

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Re: 3D Geometry Help Please

This seems to be a straight forward problem resulting in quadratic equation.


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#5 2017-03-06 12:28:41

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Re: 3D Geometry Help Please

Could you guys give me some help on this problem?

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#6 2017-03-06 12:54:28

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Re: 3D Geometry Help Please

Hi;

Where are you stuck? Forming the equation? Solving the equation? Did you draw a diagram?


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#7 2017-03-06 14:03:40

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Re: 3D Geometry Help Please

I'm unsure of how to approach this. Should i plug in numbers and do trial and error? I don't know.

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#8 2017-03-06 15:36:47

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Re: 3D Geometry Help Please

I have nothing against trial and error when you are stuck. I see lots of people on forums who would rather admit defeat then plug in a few numbers. But to try that you must set up something to plug numbers into? Can you do that?


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#9 2017-03-06 21:31:48

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Re: 3D Geometry Help Please

adpqadpq wrote:

Could you guys give me some help on this problem?

I thought I'd done that in post 2.

Call the size of the base x.  Then the height will be x+3.

The area of the base is x^2 and for a side wall it will be x(x+3).  Thus you can add up and get the total surface area.  You will get a quadratic, making an up-side-down U shape.  The apex must be 90 or more.  So set the quadratic equal to 90 and solve.  This will give you  the optimum x.

Bob


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