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#26 2016-08-12 19:43:19

bob bundy
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Re: Geometry Proof

hi basketballstar123

This wasn't my proof, but here's how I know this to be true.  The circle centred on G defines the point H.  AHB is 90 at it is the angle at the circumference subtended by the diameter AB **.  AB is parallel to CD so angle AHB = HBD (use x + y = 90).

Bob

** http://www.mathisfunforum.com/viewtopic.php?id=17799  post #6


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#27 2016-08-14 02:05:39

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Re: Geometry Proof

Is there a way to solve this problem by making ABP a medial triangle?

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#28 2016-08-14 16:27:40

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Re: Geometry Proof

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#29 2016-09-01 08:39:32

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Re: Geometry Proof

Also, what is M and J?

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#30 2016-09-01 15:37:49

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Re: Geometry Proof

phrontister wrote:

Good luck, Bob! smile

Yes, I thought there should be an easier way, too...as there was with this one, with ΔPEB being 1/3rd of ΔPCA.

Here's another diagram, with another property revealed by Geogebra: ie, CL = LP = HM. But again, I don't know how to use that info.

download?resid=C20C46B976D069EE!3930&authkey=!AIiyhDMbCeFWO5k&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg

This time I've marked some of the equal-length lines.

This was the digram I was referring to.


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#31 2016-09-03 05:01:08

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Re: Geometry Proof

How do you know that AB=LM without using geogebra?

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#32 2016-09-03 11:20:41

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Re: Geometry Proof

Hi dazzle1230;

How do you know that AB=LM without using geogebra?

AB & LM are opposite sides of rectangle ABML (from post #24):

Proof that H is CD's midpoint:
      (i) ABML is a rectangle (tangent perpendicular to radius theorem [see 'Tangent Angle' at bottom of page here] for points A & B; AB is parallel to CD [see post #1]; AE extends to L)

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#33 2016-09-04 08:16:43

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Re: Geometry Proof

then wouldnt we have to prove that there are perpendicular lines?

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#34 2016-09-04 11:44:40

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Re: Geometry Proof

With parallel lines (AB and CD in this case), a line that is perpendicular to one (eg, as a tangent radius) is perpendicular to both.


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#35 2017-03-30 12:22:56

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Re: Geometry Proof

I like how this was a discussion about a certain proof, and then it somehow transformed about a discussion of a movie.


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#36 2017-03-30 14:49:30

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Re: Geometry Proof

Hi;

This forum is kind of informal and friendly. Ask a question and help comes, it is that easy.

There really was only a bit about that movie, this thread is stuffed, I mean stuffed with geometry.


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#37 2017-03-30 19:05:35

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Re: Geometry Proof

There are no posts about movie, I see.


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#38 2017-04-19 04:18:33

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Re: Geometry Proof

I tried the approach of defining point M as the midpoint of AB and point N as the midpoint of CD, and also tried the approach of defining N as a point on CD such that AM=MN, effectively working backwards, but it didn't work...

If ANB = 90, the midpoint of the hypotenuse, M, will also be the circumcenter of ANB, therefore AM=BM=NM. I don't know how to prove that ANB is a right triangle.
I also used some arc lengths and tangents to prove that angle BDP is congruent to ABP

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#39 2017-04-19 04:20:09

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Re: Geometry Proof

iamaditya wrote:

There are no posts about movie, I see.

A space odyssey, first page smile

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#40 2017-04-19 06:43:20

bob bundy
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Re: Geometry Proof

hi zapyourtumor

Welcome to the forum.

This is a long thread and there's at least one other on this question.  The answer to your question is in there somewhere; you just need to go back to the early posts.  I recommend you use my labelling rather than using M and N.  Then you'll find the answer.

Bob


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