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All I can say is you are modest. Maybe I have read your articles/books
Thanks for telling one more new math fact!
Whatever, but I consider it cool!
I don't know such advanced stuffs, so may not be able to understand how you derived it. I have heard only 'Riemann hypothesis', is it the same Riemann in 'Riemann Rearrangement'?
You are a polymath, I am a wannabe
Wow bobbym, that's awesome!!
Did you derive that, in a day?!
Hi Charlie,
Any number that is a multiple of 100 is a prime number if you add the number 1 to it, right? like, 101, 201, 100000001, 2000000001, 1000000000001, 2000000000001, etc....
Not true, only 101 is prime.
There is no easy pattern or equation to find prime numbers, though there is a prime number theorem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_number_theorem
Anyway, what's the correct question?
If I assume the question to be : "Find two numbers that, if multiplied, would generate a 400-digit number.", then one possible answer would be
Hi bobbym,
Thanks for trying that out
Thanks ganesh,
Yes, we are all here to enjoy the math!
Thank you bobbym.
Once I know enough, I'll also start
I was checking the difference. On seeing its order of magnitude, I felt like that...
Thanks for the link.
Thanks bobbym, that's nice.
I didn't know the approximation was that simple... Should n be very large? I saw that the approximation deviated rapidly for n=300.
Hi 4DLiVing,
I can't say for now. It may be possible to derive the next line, like finding numbers in bell triangle or pascal triangle, but a closed form may not exist.
Hi bobbym,
Has anyone proved that a closed form cannot exist for recurrences like Stirling numbers? Is there any approximation like stirling's approximation for n! ?
Yes, that's cute indeed! Amazing...
Yes, I went exactly to those two pages before replying
Thanks...
Wow! I see, Stirling's number of second kind.
But who saw it first, Stirling or Bell?!
Hi bobbym,
I'll tell how I calculated it.
When race results in -
1: No tie - i.e. [1 2 3] - the possibility is 3! ways
2: All tie - [1 1 1] - 1 way
3: 2 finish second -[1 2 2] - 3!/2! = 3 ways
4: 2 finish first - [1 1 2] - 3!/2! = 3 ways.
Hence totals to 13 ways. I hope I'm clear.
Mathsy, we must treat horses to be distinct... E.g. there are 13 ways for 3 horses to finish the race.
How many ways are there for a horse race with 6 horses to finish if ties are possible?
It somewhat looks like a multiset problem to me, but a finish like 1,3,3,5,5,5 isn't possible. Is there a solution other than by cases?
Can we generalise to n horses?
MathsIsFun, this is very good
and for this equation:
(x^2+y^2-1)((x-1)^2+y^2-1)((x-.5)^2+(y-.866)^2-1)((x+.5)^2+(y-.866)^2-1)((x+1)^2+y^2-1)((x+.5)^2+(y+.866)^2-1)((x-.5)^2+(y+.866)^2-1)=0
If you check this, it consists of individual equations of circle ( can we call them "multiple coaxal system of circles"? )
We can also multiply equations of straight lines.
E.g. a crosshair: (x^2+y^2-1)(x+y)(y-x)=0
Thanks... you helped me to know the application of exponential generating function.
E.g., from post#1, I need the 4-digit numbers to begin with 1.
So I keep the first position fixed to 1. Then for the remaining 3 digits, the set is reduced to {1,2,2,3,3,4,4,4,4}. So I use the generating function :
and then find the co-efficent of x^3. Is that right?
I'm also curious to know if there are other methods. It was once asked in an exam, so generating functions would be tedious to do by hand
Last one thing to ask,
what if I want the chosen number to begin with 1?
Is this the generating function:
Ok, thanks...
that cleared my doubts
Oh, I haven't dealt with multisets I did not know it was called a multiset... The books I have seen, as I remember, did not have the topic of multisets under generating function...
So, if I need to know the no. of 5-digit numbers, is it (co-efficient of x^5) * (5!) ?
Hi bobbym,
good to know that there is a method, can you explain the method?
thanks..