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**bossk171****Member**- Registered: 2007-07-16
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A catenary is the curve:

If you roll a parabola along the x-axis, the focus of the rolling parabola traces out a catenary. I read this a number of places, but I've yet been able to find, or create, a proof.

Can anyone help? Please?

*Last edited by bossk171 (2010-07-30 15:08:18)*

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi bossk171;

I read that too and it is cited in at least 4 spots:

http://www.centralillinoiswoodturners.c … 20Form.pdf

http://www.pballew.net/arithme8.html#catenary

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor … Id=6434007

http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~his … enary.html

I have been unable to find that proof.

According to this page,

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s … =firefox-a

Maxwell is the discoverer of the proof you are looking for!

Check this out!

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

http://translate.google.com/translate?h … 26prmd%3Db

This page here gives the differential equation for the all the conic sections, yours is on the bottom. The differential equation can used to derive the curve as the focus of the parabola rides on the x axis, it will be found to be a catenary. This derivation is a proof.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.**

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**namealreadychosen****Member**- Registered: 2011-07-23
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Is the shape of the streamlines formed by a swimming duck a catenary? Is the shape of a supposedly shatterproof (I have broken them) ruler being bent, each end pressed onto my fingertips, a catenary? I know that the shape of a chain held at both ends is a catenary.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
- Registered: 2011-05-23
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hi bosk171

would this help?:http://www.proofwiki.org/wiki/Catenary#Proof

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