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#326 2012-11-02 12:40:28

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Re: Generating Functions

Why?


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#327 2012-11-02 12:42:09

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Re: Generating Functions

Who was Doc Thorne and what did he do?


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I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#328 2012-11-02 12:52:47

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I have no idea. The bame just sounds familiar.


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#329 2012-11-02 12:54:36

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Re: Generating Functions

He was a fictitious engineer who taught at Stanford. Famous for his "Thorny Problems."


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#330 2012-11-02 13:12:11

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Thorny problems?


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#331 2012-11-02 13:15:24

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Yep, He would put the answers for the final on the ceiling and challenge his student  to retrieve them with nothing but a bag of licorice and some toothpicks.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#332 2012-11-02 13:21:16

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Cool! What does that have to do with the problem you were working on?


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#333 2012-11-02 13:41:39

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Re: Generating Functions

I was not working on it, you are.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#334 2012-11-02 13:43:13

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Nope. You were working on it when I asked for a harder GF problem. Read the last 5 pages of this thread.


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#335 2012-11-02 13:44:13

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You asked for a harder problem and I gave you one read the first page.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#336 2012-11-02 13:48:28

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Either way, what does the problem have to do with Thorne?


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#337 2012-11-02 13:49:14

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Re: Generating Functions

That is how he trained his future engineers with tough problems that he knew they probably could not solve.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#338 2012-11-02 14:17:42

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So basically, he trained them RIPOSTP.


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#339 2012-11-02 14:28:13

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Absolutely not! He wanted them to think on their own, research only to find a new way.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#340 2012-11-02 14:36:39

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That seems to be a better solution but only if it works.


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#341 2012-11-02 14:39:54

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Eventually you will get there.

Dinner time!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#342 2013-09-22 03:07:15

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Re: Generating Functions

bobbym wrote:

1000 die are thrown. What is the probability that the sum is not a prime?

Is the probability 0.8685354281058543893953912666?

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#343 2013-09-22 04:55:35

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Re: Generating Functions

Hi;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#344 2013-09-22 05:28:31

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Re: Generating Functions

Hi bobbym


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#345 2013-09-22 05:31:04

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Re: Generating Functions


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#346 2013-09-22 05:34:11

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Re: Generating Functions

Hi


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“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#347 2013-09-22 05:35:26

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Re: Generating Functions

Hi;

Let's try something that is much easier, throw 2 of them and let's see if the answers are coinciding.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#348 2013-09-22 05:47:14

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Re: Generating Functions

Hi bobbym

Sorry, my answer is 0.868810916716694558279912. Forgot to shift. It is still not the same as yours.

5/12 for 2 dice.


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#349 2013-09-22 05:49:34

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Hi;

I am getting 7 / 12.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#350 2013-09-22 05:50:58

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Re: Generating Functions

Yes, that's right. Forgot to subtract it from 1. I am getting 7/12 for the probability of a non-prime sum of 2 dice.


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