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[1 paradox][1 paradox] Why 0.999... is not equal to 1? Last edited by bobbym (20130322 20:26:19) #2 20130306 14:22:09
Re: [1 paradox]Hi;
The current probability theory is not wrong. The greatest empirical test of it was performed when Las Vegas was built pretty much by the efforts of Benjamin Siegel. Last edited by bobbym (20130306 14:34:18) In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #3 20130306 14:32:18
Re: [1 paradox]Why is it difficult for so many people to believe that 0.99999999999999....... = 1?? 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #4 20130306 14:35:46
Re: [1 paradox]Beats me! I have heard every argument. None have ever been able to get through the first part of my post. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #5 20130306 18:22:32
Re: [1 paradox]You still haven't disproven me. It seems that including 0.999... in reals is arbitrary. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #6 20130306 18:50:20
Re: [1 paradox]Why would 1 being an element of the reals bother you? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #7 20130307 00:55:21
Re: [1 paradox]Not 1. 0.999... The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #8 20130307 01:58:15
Re: [1 paradox]Do you agree that 1 / 3 = .3333333333... ? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #9 20130307 02:13:24
Re: [1 paradox]Yes. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #10 20130307 02:15:28
Re: [1 paradox]You like the idea of 2 / 3 = .666666666... In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #11 20130307 02:23:51
Re: [1 paradox]That is okay, as well. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #12 20130307 02:28:12
Re: [1 paradox].3 + .6 = .9 In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #13 20130307 02:33:09
Re: [1 paradox]I agree with the first three, but not with the fourth. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #14 20130307 02:35:40
Re: [1 paradox]It is just notation, ... means continuing on forever. This is obvious from the other ones. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #15 20130307 02:38:36
Re: [1 paradox]It is not. Strange things can happen at infinity. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #16 20130307 02:39:17
Re: [1 paradox]Do you believe pi exists? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #17 20130307 02:40:54
Re: [1 paradox]Yes. Otherwise, what would the ratio of the circumference and the diameter be? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #18 20130307 02:43:32
Re: [1 paradox]Do you have a problem with 3.14159...? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #19 20130307 02:45:58
Re: [1 paradox]No. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #20 20130307 02:50:32
Re: [1 paradox]So to you what does .999999... mean? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #21 20130307 02:51:37
Re: [1 paradox]Something that is barred from maths. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #22 20130307 02:52:48
Re: [1 paradox]It is not barred from math. How would you write In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #23 20130307 02:54:08
Re: [1 paradox].33333333... + .66666666...=1. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #24 20130307 02:56:02
Re: [1 paradox]You do not see the possibility of In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #25 20130307 03:02:11
Re: [1 paradox]What is that 0.999... on the RHS. Doesn't look like a number! The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment 