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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
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Hi;

At the request of Agnishom, this thread will now deal with Fourier series and how to do them using your package.

We will start with the simple y = x between -π and π.

We have the equations:

```
f[x_] := x;
a[n_] := 1/\[Pi] Integrate[f[x] Cos[n*x], {x, -\[Pi], \[Pi]}]
b[n_] := 1/\[Pi] Integrate[f[x] Sin[n*x], {x, -\[Pi], \[Pi]}]
```

a[0],a[1],...a[4] will all be 0

b[0] = 0

b[1] = 2

b[2] = -1

b[3] = 2 / 3

b[4] = - 1 / 2

So the Fourier series is

`b[0] + b[1] Sin[x] + b[2] Sin[2 x] + b[3] Sin[3 x]+b[4] Sin[4x]`

```
Plot[{2 Sin[x] - Sin[2 x] + 2/3 Sin[3 x] - 1/2 Sin[4 x],
x}, {x, -\[Pi], \[Pi]}]
```

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Hmm

```
(%i1) load(fourie)$
(%i2) f(x) = y$
(%i3) fourier(f,x,1);
(%t3) a = f
0
2 f sin(%pi n)
(%t4) a = --------------
n %pi n
(%t5) b = 0
n
(%o5) [%t3, %t4, %t5]
```

EDIT: Sorry, I did not see the edited portion of your last post, the last time

*Last edited by Agnishom (2014-02-20 02:55:48)*

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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Please use Mathematica else we will get confused over differences in packages. Also follow what I did in post 1 so that you can see the workings.

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bobbym wrote:

We have the equations:

`f[x_] := x; a[n_] := 1/\[Pi] Integrate[f[x] Cos[n*x], {x, -\[Pi], \[Pi]}] b[n_] := 1/\[Pi] Integrate[f[x] Sin[n*x], {x, -\[Pi], \[Pi]}]`

```
(%i1) f(x) := x$
(%i2) a(n) := (1/%pi)*(integrate(f(x)*cos(n*x),x,-%pi,%pi))$
(%i3) b(n) := (1/%pi)*(integrate(f(x)*sin(n*x),x,-%pi,%pi))$
```

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bobbym wrote:

Please use Mathematica else we will get confused over differences in packages. Also follow what I did in post 1 so that you can see the workings.

OK, sorry for the confusion. I will do that when I get a chance to reboot.

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

This is what it looks like.

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I will do the Mathematica part once I reboot. For now, Is this ok?

```
(%i1) f(x) := x$
(%i2) a(n) := (1/%pi)*(integrate(f(x)*cos(n*x),x,-%pi,%pi))$
(%i3) b(n) := (1/%pi)*(integrate(f(x)*sin(n*x),x,-%pi,%pi))$
(%i4) b(0) + b(1)*sin(x) + b(2)*sin(2*x) + b(3)*sin(3*x)+b(4)*sin(4*x);
sin(4 x) 2 sin(3 x)
(%o4) - -------- + ---------- - sin(2 x) + 2 sin(x)
2 3
(%i5) print("Hmmm");
Hmmm
(%o5) Hmmm
(%i6) plot2d (%o4, [x, -%pi, %pi])$
```

The image is attached

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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That looks okay, very good.

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a[0],a[1],...a[4] will all be 0

So, why calculate any of them? Why declare the a[n_] function at all?

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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Because most of the time they will not be 0. Usually there are cos and sin terms.

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What does a fourier series look like without the sigma notaiton

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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Sigma notation was not used. That is a fine point. It looks like a big polynomial except powers of x are replaced with trig functions.

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Show me one such poly please.

By the way, the attached image looks interesting.

```
(%i12) b(0);(%o12) 0
(%i13) b(0) + b(1)*sin(x)
;
(%o13) 2 sin(x)
(%i14) b(0) + b(1)*sin(x) + b(2)*sin(2*x);
(%o14) 2 sin(x) - sin(2 x)
(%i15) b(0) + b(1)*sin(x) + b(2)*sin(2*x) + b(3)*sin(3*x);
2 sin(3 x)
(%o15) ---------- - sin(2 x) + 2 sin(x)
3
(%i16) b(0) + b(1)*sin(x) + b(2)*sin(2*x) + b(3)*sin(3*x)+b(4)*sin(4*x); sin(4 x) 2 sin(3 x)
(%o16) - -------- + ---------- - sin(2 x) + 2 sin(x)
2 3
(%i17) b(0) + b(1)*sin(x) + b(2)*sin(2*x) + b(3)*sin(3*x)+b(4)*sin(4*x)+b(5)*sin(5*x);
2 sin(5 x) sin(4 x) 2 sin(3 x)
(%o17) ---------- - -------- + ---------- - sin(2 x) + 2 sin(x)
```

`(%i22) plot2d ([%o12,%o13,%o14,%o15,%o16,%o17,f], [x, -%pi, %pi],[box, false])$`

I remember that M has an Animate command that could produce a cooler animation

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

I did not say that they were polynomials, they just look like them.

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Why is this not a polynomial?

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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A polynomial is an expression made up of integer powers of x.

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Non-negative inteher

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, that is correct.

Tomorrow we will try another.

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It should have been integer rather than inteher.

Tomorrow with respect to whom?

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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For you of course.

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OK, it is now tomorrow with respect to me

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, I need some time to prepare another example. Also, I am making dinner.

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Will you feed me tonight?

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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Of course, ever had pizza?

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Of course, do you know what a gel candle is?

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