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#1 2014-11-29 14:45:39

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When would the eight planets line up?

If you have a theory or calculation about the title, you may do so here.

My current hypothesis:
Mercury
Revolution period: 0.24 Earth Years (87.97 Earth Days)
Venus
Revolution period: 224.7 Earth days
Mars
Revolution period: 686.93 Earth days
Jupiter
Revolution period: 11.86 Earth years
Saturn
Revolution period: 29.46 Earth years
Uranus
Revolution period: 83.75 Earth years
Neptune
Revolution period: 163.72 Earth years
Earth
Revolution period: 365.26 Earth Days


Could it be every 1 340 185 years 122 days 17 hours 59 minutes 16 seconds 800 milliseconds?

Long, right?


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#2 2014-11-29 20:59:44

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Re: When would the eight planets line up?

Right idea.  But how 'picky' are you about lining up.  The orbital planes do not quite coincide*, so an exact alignment would be so rare it probably won't happen in the expected lifetime of the solar system.

*  This is why a transit of the Sun by Venus doesn't happen as often as once per orbit.

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#3 2014-11-29 21:00:18

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Re: When would the eight planets line up?

Hi;

I did this calculation, or tried to. It is very difficult.


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#4 2014-11-30 13:46:17

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Re: When would the eight planets line up?

They never line up perfectly. Planetary alignment does occur but it usually is between 3 or so planets with a discrepancy of around 30 degrees. The last time all planets came in an alignment of 30 degrees was in, I believe, 500. The next time should be around 2800. Each such alignment occurs every 500 years and there is usually a 30% chance of it being aligned within 30 degrees.

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#5 2014-11-30 20:12:26

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Re: When would the eight planets line up?

bobbym wrote:

Hi;

I did this calculation, or tried to. It is very difficult.

Why?


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#6 2014-11-30 20:19:02

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Re: When would the eight planets line up?

There was a book by a Dutch astronomer that showed the equations. I was doing it my own way and I think Chaos theory showed up.


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#7 2014-11-30 20:22:44

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Re: When would the eight planets line up?

What is wrong with julian's calculation?


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#8 2014-11-30 20:23:30

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Re: When would the eight planets line up?

Try it out.


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#9 2014-11-30 20:34:15

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Re: When would the eight planets line up?

What?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
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#10 2014-11-30 20:37:10

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Re: When would the eight planets line up?

Do you see what I mean?


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#11 2014-11-30 20:43:05

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Re: When would the eight planets line up?

No but I suspect you will relate it to EM


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#12 2014-11-30 20:45:50

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Re: When would the eight planets line up?

Chaos is the enemy of numerical methods. We call it error analysis. Anyway, I failed to solve it for 3 planets. But it was a slightly different problem and that might make all the difference.


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#13 2014-12-07 12:32:13

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Re: When would the eight planets line up?

I have searched about February 4 1962. This such alignment of six planets will happen every 97 years 270 days 13 hours 59 minutes 13 seconds 499.75 milliseconds. So, the next alignment is November 1 2059 at around afternoon in our time (Philippines). So, Americans are so lucky to enjoy the view of February 4 1962. And, I will be a 55-year old who would be blind already. tongue

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