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#1 2014-12-05 21:12:43

clover
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integration problems urgent!

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thx a lot~

Last edited by clover (2014-12-05 21:17:05)

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#2 2014-12-05 21:17:09

Bob
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Re: integration problems urgent!

hi clover,

I cannot access that link.  Browser still trying to download.

Bob


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#3 2014-12-05 21:17:52

clover
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Re: integration problems urgent!

hi bob,
i have edited the post, c if u can c it now smile

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#4 2014-12-05 21:18:37

Bob
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Re: integration problems urgent!

Yes, that's better.  Just need a moment to read it.

Bob


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#5 2014-12-05 21:30:02

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Re: integration problems urgent!

Thoughts on Q1.

If f(t) = e^t then g(x) = e^x - 1

Then g(x^2) has the property.

Not sure if I can do the others.  Thinking............

Bob


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#6 2014-12-05 21:31:19

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Re: integration problems urgent!

Whoops only ok for x>0.  Back to the drawing board.

Bob


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#7 2014-12-06 00:15:12

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Re: integration problems urgent!

bob bundy wrote:

Whoops only ok for x>0.  Back to the drawing board.

Bob

How about f(t) = constant?

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#8 2014-12-06 01:25:01

Bob
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Re: integration problems urgent!

hi zetafunc,

I'm so pleased you're having a go at this.  I'm really stuck.

If f(t) = k then g(x) = kx => g(x^2) = kx^2, which isn't 'upward' for x<0

As e^x has the property I'm trying to make a piecewise function ie. in two parts for negative and positive x.  wait a mo.  Can I adapt yours ?

Say, f(t) = k for t > 0 and -k for t < 0

t > 0 as before.

t < 0 => g(x) = -kx => g(x^2) = -kx^2.  Drat! It's not concave for all x.

Bob


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#9 2014-12-06 05:29:11

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Re: integration problems urgent!

I cannot believe how stupid I have been all day.  The answer has been staring me in the face!  sad

I had assumed that 'concave upward function' meant the function was to be 'increasing'. It has just dawned on me that this interpretation would make the question impossible for:

so g(x^2) is an even function => the y axis is a line of symmetry => it cannot be increasing.

So I now look for an alternative meaning to 'concave upward'.  If it just means U-shaped then my answer in post 5 is good and so is zetafunc's in post 7.  Sorry. shame

So I'll take Q1 as done, and think about Q2.

roflol

Bob


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