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#1 2016-12-23 09:52:01

ABC1234
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Intermediate Algebra

Please help on following:

1) Suppose r and s are the values of x that satisfy the equation

for some real number m. Find the minimum real value of
.
Using vieta's I used the coefficients of the quadratic to express
as
, but I don't know what to do after that.

2) Let

and let
be the roots of f(x).  Compute
.

Thank you

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#2 2016-12-23 18:54:08

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Re: Intermediate Algebra

Hi dazzle1230;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#3 2016-12-24 02:57:40

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Re: Intermediate Algebra


{1}Vasudhaiva Kutumakam.{The whole Universe is a family.}
(2)Yatra naaryasthu poojyanthe Ramanthe tatra Devataha
{Gods rejoice at those places where ladies are respected.}

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#4 2016-12-24 07:54:27

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Re: Intermediate Algebra

1) I got -8 too after completing the square: 2m^2-4m-6 -> 2(m^2-2m-3) -> 2((x-1)^2-4).  Thanks!
2) I'm not sure about this problem though.  All I know so far is that for

, we can turn it into

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#5 2016-12-24 08:00:49

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Re: Intermediate Algebra

That's a good start. Now, what is
? And
?

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#6 2016-12-24 16:21:23

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Re: Intermediate Algebra


{1}Vasudhaiva Kutumakam.{The whole Universe is a family.}
(2)Yatra naaryasthu poojyanthe Ramanthe tatra Devataha
{Gods rejoice at those places where ladies are respected.}

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#7 2016-12-24 23:16:54

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Re: Intermediate Algebra

thickhead wrote:

I get that too.

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#8 2016-12-25 08:00:11

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Re: Intermediate Algebra

I see after using substitution but what about -4x+3?

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#9 2016-12-25 08:56:03

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Re: Intermediate Algebra

How can you relate the sum of the roots of a polynomial to its coefficients?

Last edited by zetafunc (2016-12-25 08:56:13)

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#10 2016-12-27 04:14:08

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Re: Intermediate Algebra

I know how to find the sum of roots using vieta's, but how am I supposed to find the coefficients?

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#11 2016-12-27 04:50:12

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Re: Intermediate Algebra

You only need the coefficients of
and

Last edited by zetafunc (2016-12-27 04:50:38)

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