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#1 2018-11-10 18:41:48

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Domain and Range

Find domain and range
F(x)=(sq(x+2))/((x^2)-9)


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#2 2018-11-10 20:52:46

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Re: Domain and Range

hi Zeeshan 01

Haven't heard from you for a while.  How are you doing?

To answer your question, I made a sketch of the graph.

Firstly, if x < -2 then the square root cannot be computed so that sets a lower limit and determines the domain.

At x = -2 , F(x) = 0

x^2 - 9 = (x-3)(x+3) so there will be vertical asymptotes at -3 and +3, meaning that x tends to either + or minus infinity. The negative one is outside the domain so we needn't consider it.   Consider what sign F(x) has as x approaches 3 from above and below.  When x > 3 and approaching 3 both the numerator and denominator are + so the curve will tend to + infinity.  When x < 3 and approaching 3 the denominator switches to negative so that part of the curve tends to - infinity.  That's enough to decide the range.

If you want to view the graph go to https://www.mathsisfun.com/data/functio … 2)/(x^2-9)

Hope that helps,

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#3 2018-11-11 15:15:08

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Re: Domain and Range

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#4 2018-11-11 15:21:02

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Re: Domain and Range

Domain f(x)= [-2,+infinity)
In this x^2 - 9 = (x-3)(x+3) when x>3 it become positive infinity and when x<3 it becomes negative infinity but i dont want range of denominator i want range of complete function


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#5 2018-11-11 15:24:41

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Re: Domain and Range

How?

That's enough to decide the range.


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#6 2018-11-11 20:34:00

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Re: Domain and Range

Domain f(x)= [-2,+infinity)

Yes, but you must also add x  ≠ 3 as there is no value for F(x) at this point. infinity is not regarded as a number.

The range is all the values that F(x) can take.  (x-3)(x+3) determines this because when the denominator approaches 3, the denominator tends to zero so the function tends  to either + or - infinity.  This means that all values occur for F(x) so the range is (-∞ , +∞) If you look at the graph, choose any value for F and draw a horizontal line to try to cut the curve.  It is always possible.

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#7 2018-11-11 21:08:29

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Re: Domain and Range

Domain=[-2,3)U(3,+infinity)


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#8 2018-11-11 21:13:49

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Re: Domain and Range

Another way to find range.


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#9 2018-11-12 20:07:10

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hi Zeeshan 01

I'm not sure if there is another way.  Have a look at this page:

https://www.mathsisfun.com/sets/domain- … omain.html

Somehow you have to find all the possible values that F(x) can have.

You cannot list them in a set as this is (except at x=3) a continuous function.  So you have to write the answer in this way:

[lowest values, highest value] although sometimes a square bracket may be replaced with a round bracket to indicate that an endpoint is not included.

I think that considering the graph helps a lot with this.  Did you follow the link?  It shows that the function is continuous in two sections separated by x=3.  It also shows that the function tends to both + and - infinity.  Thus we know that the range is all real values of x.

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#10 2018-11-13 22:27:52

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Re: Domain and Range

I Do not Think Answer is Infinity.


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#11 2018-11-13 22:34:07

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Re: Domain and Range

Put some Values in f(x) such as x=100, x=-1 ,x=2 ,x=2.9999 you will see what is range.


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#12 2018-11-14 03:43:51

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Re: Domain and Range

x                           F(x)
     0                     -0.15713484
  100                0.00101086
   -1                    -0.125
    2                    -0.4
2.99999            -37267.82447
2.999999999    -372677965.4
3.00000001     37267799.89
3.000000001     372677965.5

Using Excel to calculate =SQRT(x+2)/(x^2-9)

As x approaches 3 from below the values of F are getting increasingly big in the negative direction.
As x approaches 3 from above the values of F are getting increasingly big and positive.

Have you looked at the graph?

Are we using the same function ?

Bob


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#13 2018-11-14 15:22:17

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Re: Domain and Range

(SQRT(x+2))/(x^2-9)  square root is on numerator not denominator.


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#14 2018-11-14 21:36:33

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Re: Domain and Range

hi

There's a lot of brackets there so here's how I analysed the function:

(SQRT(x+2))/((x^2)-9)

(SQRT(x+2))      /      ((x^2)-9)

Drop unnecessary brackets

SQRT(x+2)        /       (x^2-9)

Question 1.  Is this the correct function ?

Question 2.  Have you looked at the graph linked in post 2 ?

Please answer these questions.  If I don't get both answers I shall not be posting again on this thread.

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#15 2018-11-14 21:43:08

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Re: Domain and Range

Answer1. Yes this is correct function.
Answer2.I have looked the graph.


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#16 2018-11-14 21:51:46

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Re: Domain and Range

When we put x= -2 then f(x)=0 ,  when put x<2 then fx is negative when put x>3 (not 3 ) then f(x) goes to decimal  ie
X=4 f(x)=0.349
X=5 f(x)=0.165
X=6 f(x)=0.104
X=20 so f(x)= 0.011
This function is not going to infinity it have some negative values and when x>3 it is coming towards zero.


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#17 2018-11-17 18:00:45

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Re: Domain and Range

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#18 2018-11-17 20:49:45

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Re: Domain and Range

The domain is the set of possible 'x' values and the range is the set of possible 'y' values.

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You are correct that the curve tends to zero as x tends to infinity but that doesn't tell us the range.  You cannot have the value x=3; it is excluded from the domain, but you can get as close to 3 as you like and as you do the function has larger and larger values.  There is no value of 'y' that cannot be attained so the range is ( -∞  , ∞ )  Note y = zero is attained at x = -2

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