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#1 2009-02-18 21:42:44

oxford
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Complex numbers

Find the solutions of the equation

in polar form.

#2 2009-02-19 00:38:02

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#3 2009-02-19 15:39:01

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Re: Complex numbers

another one:
If the real part of

is zero, find the locus of points representing z in the complex plane.
Any ideas on what to do first?

#4 2009-02-19 22:41:51

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Re: Complex numbers

I'd think of it in modulus-argument form.

|a/b| = |a|/|b|, which makes finding the modulus of your number fairly easy to find.
arg(a/b) = arg(a) - arg(b). Due to symmetry, there's a nice way of expressing one argument in terms of the other one, and that should help you find an expression for arg(a/b).

Look at any restrictions you have on the modulus and on the argument, and figure out what the locus has to be.


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#5 2009-02-20 01:48:19

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Re: Complex numbers

let w=z-1. then:
(z+1)/(z-1)=(w+2)/w=1+2/w=1+2w*/|w|. If this is imaginary, 2Re(w)/|w|=-1. But Re(w)/|w| is equal to Cos(Arg(w)).

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#6 2009-02-20 11:26:41

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I could have sworn there was a smiley in Kurre’s post originally. tongue

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#7 2009-02-20 11:33:45

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Re: Complex numbers

Yeah, I misread and thought (z+1)/(z-1) should be real, then I failed to edit and accidently posted a new post instead, so I deleted my first post, therefore no "edit" tongue

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#8 2009-02-20 11:49:16

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Re: Complex numbers

No, I am referring to the fact that your post looked like this originally:

let w=z-1. then:
(z+1)/(z-1)=(w+2)/w=1+2/w=1+2w*/|w|. If this is imaginary, 2Re(w)/|w|=-1. But Re(w)/|w| is equal to Cos(Arg(w)).

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#9 2009-02-20 19:59:47

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Re: Complex numbers

aha ok roll
thats weird. Website update? cool

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#10 2009-02-20 22:56:43

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Re: Complex numbers

Maybe Mathsy quietly edited and fixed your post. roll

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#11 2009-02-21 00:54:06

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Re: Complex numbers

Super sleuthing. tongue

I didn't touch the actual post though, I just ticked the box that stops text getting turned into smilies. There's a list of options just below Image Upload.


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#12 2009-02-21 11:42:54

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Re: Complex numbers

Thanks guys and girls.
I need on another.

|z-4-i|+|z+4+i| > 1

#13 2009-02-21 12:28:38

mathsyperson
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Re: Complex numbers

That looks to be true everywhere.

Something encased in a modulus is always non-negative, so a solution to |z+4+i| > 1 would be a solution to your question. Similarly, any solution to |z-4-i| > 1 would work.

Getting more specific again, any solution to |Re (z+4+i)| = |Re (z) + 4| > 1 will be a solution to |z+4+i| > 1.

So, any value of z that does not satisfy -5 ≤ Re(z) ≤ -3 will work.

But using a similar process on |z-4-i| > 1, you get that any z that does not satisfy 3 ≤ Re(z) ≤ 5 will work.

Clearly any z satisfies one or both of these conditions, and so any z will solve the original inequality.


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#14 2009-02-21 14:40:05

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Re: Complex numbers

mathsyperson wrote:

That looks to be true everywhere.


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#15 2009-02-21 23:36:21

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Re: Complex numbers

Yeah, the triangle inequality was such a better way of doing it. I came here to add that to my post but you'd got there already. smile


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