Math Is Fun Forum

  Discussion about math, puzzles, games and fun.   Useful symbols: ÷ × ½ √ ∞ ≠ ≤ ≥ ≈ ⇒ ± ∈ Δ θ ∴ ∑ ∫ • π ƒ -¹ ² ³ °

You are not logged in.

#1 2010-05-16 15:13:56

alz921
Guest

Rational Function Help

I have a type of problem that i need some major help on. I am not getting at all how to do this. the problem is....


It costs a company $30,000 to begin production of a good, plus $3 for every unit of the good produced. Let x be the number of units produced by the company.

a.) Find a formula for C(x), the total cost for the production of x units of the good.
b.) Find a formula for the company's average cost per unit, a(x).
c.) Graph y=a(x) for 0< x <(or equal to) 50,000, 0<(or equal to) y <(or equal to)10.
d.) Explain in economic terms why the graph of a has the long-run behavior that it does.
e.) Explain in economic terms why the graph of a has the vertical asymptote that it does.
f.) Find a formula for a^-1(y). give an economic interpretation of a^-1(y).
g.) The company makes a profit if the average cost of its good is less than $5 per unit. Find the minimum number of units the company can produce and make a profit.



Steps to find the answers will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
alz92

#2 2010-05-16 15:29:24

bobbym
bumpkin
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 109,606

Re: Rational Function Help

Hi alz921;

It would help if you had shown what you have done so far. Let's work them together.

a) The cost function is C(x) = 30000 + 3x

What do you think about b)?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

Offline

#3 2010-05-16 15:38:11

alz921
Guest

Re: Rational Function Help

well i havent done anything on it so far cause i didnt know where to start to be honest. i am not sure what a(x) means. can you explain to me what it means and ill try it out myself

#4 2010-05-16 15:43:26

bobbym
bumpkin
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 109,606

Re: Rational Function Help

Hi;

The average cost is just this, supposing he makes 10 of these things. His average cost is (30000 + 30) / 10. Does that help you a little. Try your own and bring back your results to me.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

Offline

#5 2010-05-16 15:49:17

alz921
Guest

Re: Rational Function Help

ok so would B. is 30000 + 3x/ x?

#6 2010-05-16 15:52:29

bobbym
bumpkin
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 109,606

Re: Rational Function Help

Hi;

Yes, that is correct, with x the number made!

How about c)


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

Offline

#7 2010-05-16 15:56:51

alz921
Guest

Re: Rational Function Help

I graphed it....for d.) it has that long run behavior because in the numerator the leading term is 3x and the denominator is just x so the ratio is 3/1.

#8 2010-05-16 16:05:16

bobbym
bumpkin
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 109,606

Re: Rational Function Help

Hi;

Whoa! That is not the numerator. The function is (30000 + 3x) /  x , not 30000 + (3x) /  x.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

Offline

#9 2010-05-16 16:06:32

alz921
Guest

Re: Rational Function Help

yes i know im saying the leading term of the numerator is 3x correct so the ratio of the long-run behavior is 3/1

#10 2010-05-16 16:08:54

bobbym
bumpkin
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 109,606

Re: Rational Function Help

Yes, you could say that. Later in asymptotic analysis you will see that the 3x drowns out the 30000. very good!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

Offline

#11 2010-05-16 16:10:31

alz921
Guest

Re: Rational Function Help

alright good. can we move to part f.) cause this is where im the most confused. inverses are not my thing.

#12 2010-05-16 16:15:21

bobbym
bumpkin
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 109,606

Re: Rational Function Help

Read this:

http://www.mathsisfun.com/sets/function-inverse.html

Then you will explain it to me.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

Offline

#13 2010-05-16 16:25:06

alz921
Guest

Re: Rational Function Help

ok so i took a(x) and i went the opposite direction so i multiplied the x in the denominator to the left side then subtracted the 3x and got y X -2x=30000 am i correct so far? if so, i then divide the y to the right side but I don't know where to go after that.

#14 2010-05-16 16:32:26

bobbym
bumpkin
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 109,606

Re: Rational Function Help

Hi;

I got for a finished product (3y - 30000) / 3 = x = f '(y)


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

Offline

#15 2010-05-16 16:35:25

alz921
Guest

Re: Rational Function Help

How did you get that? i dont know how that could work with a 3 in the numerator and in the denominator.

#16 2010-05-16 16:37:11

bobbym
bumpkin
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 109,606

Re: Rational Function Help

Same page a little way down you will see the heading solve using algebra, please read that again.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

Offline

#17 2010-05-16 16:38:51

alz921
Guest

Re: Rational Function Help

Yes that is what i did. Maybe im moving over the wrong thing first. what did you move first. did you multiply the x over?

#18 2010-05-16 16:44:56

bobbym
bumpkin
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 109,606

Re: Rational Function Help

Hold on, we have a problem!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

Offline

#19 2010-05-16 16:46:44

alz921
Guest

Re: Rational Function Help

alright.

#20 2010-05-16 16:54:47

bobbym
bumpkin
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 109,606

Re: Rational Function Help

Hi;

Let's try this:



In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

Offline

#21 2010-05-16 16:56:16

alz921
Guest

Re: Rational Function Help

Thank you for the help bobby. i appreciate it a lot. I am getting off now and will be checking this in the morning before going to class. still not sure how you found the inverse you did but ill look at it again and try it out but could you put your steps down so i know how to find it.

#22 2010-05-16 16:57:12

alz921
Guest

Re: Rational Function Help

haha alright thanks. i didnt think about that at all wow i feel dumb. that makes sense to me now.

#23 2010-05-16 16:57:33

bobbym
bumpkin
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 109,606

Re: Rational Function Help

Hi;

You just solve for x and when you have done that replace x with y and y with x. Glad to help!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

Offline

Board footer

Powered by FluxBB