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#1 2011-04-30 21:58:21

nikki12
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Triangle investigations

I need some help to find an equation to work out how many triangles are in a 4-triangle, I know the answer is not 16 and I know there is an equation to work this out but I cannot figure it out.

Can someone please help and explain it to me please.

Thanks Heaps
Nicole:D

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#2 2011-04-30 22:27:10

bobbym
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Re: Triangle investigations

Hi;

A 4x4x4 triangular grid?


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#3 2011-04-30 22:28:20

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Re: Triangle investigations

Yes a 4x4x4 triangle.
thanks

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#4 2011-04-30 22:40:40

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Re: Triangle investigations

Hi;

Where n is the n x n x n

So for n = 4 you get 27.


You can count them to see if it is correct.


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If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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#5 2011-04-30 22:46:35

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Re: Triangle investigations

thanks,

that seems very complicated, will that formula work for all triangle grids no matter what the base number? Is there an equation that is standard for all triangles?

Thanks

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#6 2011-04-30 22:50:41

bobbym
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Re: Triangle investigations

Actually that is a very simple and beautiful formula.

If you mean triangular grids of different n then the answer is yes.

For instance you can now see how many triangles are in this

16 x 16 x 16 triangular grid.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#7 2011-04-30 23:03:32

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Re: Triangle investigations

Im sorry to be painful but I cannot work it out if you have time can you please show me step by step so the formula and what im putting into it makes sense.

Thanks so much

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#8 2011-04-30 23:13:39

bobbym
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Re: Triangle investigations

Hi;

This is the formula:

Substitute n = 16 in it.

1188

There is another formula that might be a little simpler:

John Conway in "The Book of Numbers," p 83 suggests,

when n is even:

when n is odd:


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#9 2011-05-01 00:24:27

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Re: Triangle investigations

Thanks sooo much.
Is the John Conway formula always over 8 no matter what the number you are using?

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#10 2011-05-01 00:29:37

bobbym
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Re: Triangle investigations

Hi nikki12;

Yes, just as long as you remember the first Conway formula is for n is even and the second one is for n is odd.

Can you now tell me how many triangles there are in a 3 x 3 x 3 grid?

By the way I forgot to greet you correctly, welcome to the forum!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#11 2011-05-01 00:47:06

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Re: Triangle investigations

3(3+2)(2*3+1)-1/8
3(5)(7)-1/8
3*35-1/8
105-1/8
104/8
=13

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#12 2011-05-01 00:53:05

bobbym
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Re: Triangle investigations

Hi nikki12;

That is very good, that is the correct number.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#13 2011-05-01 00:57:09

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Re: Triangle investigations

yay! so in a 5 x 5 x 5 grid there would be 48
and in a 10 x 10 x 10 there would be 315 and so on.
You have been soo incredibly helpful thank you so much.

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#14 2011-05-01 01:00:46

bobbym
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Re: Triangle investigations

That is correct. And you are welcome.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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