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#1 2012-01-01 02:16:33

juantheron
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palindrom probability

Let X be a set of all 13 digit Integers where each digit can take values from 0 to 9 . An Integer is choosen at random from X

. then find the probability that it is a palindrome

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#2 2012-01-01 03:53:05

John E. Franklin
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Re: palindrom probability

Can the 1st and 13th digit be only 1 to 9, or can they be zeros. 
I only like this problem if the 0 is included due to the symmetry of the problem.
But then it might not be an Integer.
Is 0000007000000 a good example of an allowable Integer in this problem?


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#3 2012-01-01 05:02:15

John E. Franklin
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Re: palindrom probability

Oh, I just thought of the answer.
Pair up the mirrored digits and you get:
10 times 10 times 10 times 10 times 10 times 9 if no zero allowed on end.


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#4 2012-01-01 05:04:16

John E. Franklin
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Re: palindrom probability

do you see why that works.
See this:
ABCDEFQFEDCBA
The A can be 0 to 9.
The B,C,D,E,F can to 0 to 1 to 9, or ten of them.
Get it?  Happy new year.  Bonne nouvelle ans!!


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#5 2012-01-01 08:08:45

anonimnystefy
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Re: palindrom probability

hi John

i have a little problem with what you wrote there.

if those are 13 digit numbers,then A cannot be 0 so it goes from 1 to 9.so it will be:
9*10*10*10*10*10*10=9*(10)^6

Last edited by anonimnystefy (2012-01-01 08:48:16)


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#6 2012-01-01 08:16:32

bobbym
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Re: palindrom probability

Hi juan and all;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#7 2012-01-01 09:11:28

John E. Franklin
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Re: palindrom probability

bobbys right!
I meant 1 to 9 for A.


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#8 2012-01-02 20:07:59

juantheron
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Re: palindrom probability

thanks bobbym and anonimnystefy and Franklin

and belated happy new year 2012

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#9 2012-01-02 20:28:06

bobbym
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Re: palindrom probability

Hi juantheron;

You are welcome, glad to help.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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