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#51 2012-01-21 08:07:15

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Re: prime number power residues and/or indices

Adirondacks or Catskills, I've been to both once.


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#52 2012-01-21 08:09:14

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Re: prime number power residues and/or indices

Catskills, vacationing up there around Leeds. Went for a hike into the woods like a dummy.


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#53 2012-01-21 08:10:09

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Oh, I've been to Phonecia.


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#54 2012-01-21 08:12:01

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I was never there. Where is it?


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#55 2012-01-21 08:16:28

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In the middle of the catskills.  Nice town.  My Dad and I stayed overnight one or two nights on the second floor of an old house motel on main street.


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#56 2012-01-21 08:17:34

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Re: prime number power residues and/or indices

Cool, the catskills are really beautiful.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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#57 2012-01-21 08:22:11

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Ingemar Johansson trained boxing in the catskills.  He was born in 1932 and died in 2009 wiki said.


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#58 2012-01-21 08:24:34

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I did not know that. I know a lot of fighter do train up there.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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#59 2012-01-21 08:25:42

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My Dad told me about him about 2 1/2 years ago and I put his photo on my desktop to remind me to exercise!


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#60 2012-01-21 08:29:29

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That is one way to remember. I have known people who stuck pictures of obese people on the refrigerators to stop eating.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#61 2012-01-23 02:18:27

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I saw a pic of a rock musician whose name escapes me, something like Feejer, some gal that's in good shape, and that inspired me to exercise and walk more.  Fogee.  OH, Fergee, I think.


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#62 2012-01-23 02:21:37

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I love walking but it can be hard on the feet. More interesting than a treadmill, for instance.


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#63 2012-01-23 02:51:45

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Yes, invest in $25 insoles and then big powerful clipper-scissors and snap V-shapes around the edges of the heel especially and experiment and you will create an even squishier insole.


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#64 2012-01-23 03:35:23

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Re: prime number power residues and/or indices

Here's my code to regenerate the numbers in the book.
It is currently setup to just do prime #23, where 5 is the multiplier (my 4 in program).

'''John Eric Franklin, getting ideas from 1962 book for $3.00
'''bought at Homestead Bookshop in January of 2012.
'''example output for prime #23 with multiplier of 5
'''which is the same as jAddTimes=4 in my program. (4=5)
'program output:
'1 Begin  5
'2 10
'4 20
'8 17 16 11 9 22 18 21 13 19 3 15
'6 7 12 14 1  CIRCLE
'5
'2 10
'4
''end of program output.

jAddTimes=4'1'2'3'4'5
'''jaddtimes is basically the multiplier in the book, but one less,
'''because if you add 8 to itself you multiply by 2, but you add only ONE 8.

jNow = 23'''647''151
''jQff is also known serendipitously as "JStartValueinRing", surreptitiously says the dictionary.
jQff = 1'''112 'this number loops around distinctly all 1..(jNow-1) #'s.
jQffToTheRaces = jQff
'''mod = jNow, number of interest
jSeriesTestingLength=jNow+3'55'122'233

print jQff;" Begin  ";
for jBigLoop = 1 to jSeriesTestingLength

jAddAmount = jQffToTheRaces
'for jloop = 1 to jAddTimes
for jloop = 1 to jAddTimes
''EXPERIMENTAL NEXT LINE...!!!!
''''for jloop = 1 to (jAddAmount-1)  '''(this does squares instead of multiplying to the next number in the ring)

  ''1st time just did same add distance, not really multiplying by mistake, but learned a lot.
  ''jQffToTheRaces = jQffToTheRaces + jQff (1st test with adder never changing)
  jQffToTheRaces = jQffToTheRaces + jAddAmount

next jloop
if (jQffToTheRaces = jNow) then
  Print
  Print "Number of interest was reached EXACTLY off by ZERO, this was unexpected!!"
end if
if (jQffToTheRaces < jNow) then
  print jQffToTheRaces
else ''IS BIGGER or EQUAL, MOD IT OFF...
 do
  jQffToTheRaces = jQffToTheRaces - jNow
  ''''print jQffToTheRaces;" [ ";jNow;" ] ";
 loop until (jQffToTheRaces < jNow)
 print jQffToTheRaces;" ";
end if
if (jQffToTheRaces = jQff) then
   print " CIRCLE "
end if
next jBigLoop















''''EOF

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#65 2012-01-23 04:05:15

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Re: prime number power residues and/or indices

Looked around for that book on the internet but it was not available.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#66 2012-01-23 04:06:41

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Re: prime number power residues and/or indices

Oh, I guess I got a lucky find!


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#67 2012-01-23 04:11:09

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Re: prime number power residues and/or indices

Yes, books like that can be had in old book shops and things like that for reduced prices.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#68 2012-01-23 04:15:13

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Re: prime number power residues and/or indices

Yeah, if the remainder in the other thread had been mod with a non-prime, then the ring that repeats is usually some integer fraction of the non-prime number, I have been noticing, but my results are sketchy right now.


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#69 2012-01-23 04:17:02

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Re: prime number power residues and/or indices

That is good that you noticed that. Number theory is a nice field to play in.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#70 2012-01-23 04:18:29

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Re: prime number power residues and/or indices

Yeah, I couldn't prove much, but I sure can play and guess.


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#71 2012-01-23 04:21:09

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Re: prime number power residues and/or indices

"Spot the pattern!" A teacher I knew, that was his favorite phrase.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#72 2012-01-23 04:31:01

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Re: prime number power residues and/or indices

One of my professors used to say, "Isn't it neat?" whenever he saw something, but he said it in such a way that it sounded like a sentence, not a question whereby he didn't go to a higher frequency at the "neat" word. "isn't it neat."


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#73 2012-01-23 04:32:07

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Re: prime number power residues and/or indices

Was he a math professor?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#74 2012-01-23 04:34:55

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Re: prime number power residues and/or indices

He taught (sort of boolean algebra), but it was an electronics course called "Logic Circuits" with a lot of Karnaugh mapping for combinatorial circuits and sequential circuits with flip-flops, D, J-K are some flip-flops.


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#75 2012-01-23 04:36:16

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Re: prime number power residues and/or indices

Cool, Karnaugh maps, haven't seen them in a long time.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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