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#26 2012-04-19 12:03:14

bubokribuck
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Re: Rewrite y''+0.2y'(1-y^2)+y=0 as 1st order differential equation.

Hi bobbym, thanks very much for that, I'll have a try myself smile

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#27 2012-04-19 16:15:45

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Re: Rewrite y''+0.2y'(1-y^2)+y=0 as 1st order differential equation.

Hi bubokribuck;

See if you can get y(.2) on your own.


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#28 2012-04-22 04:21:19

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Re: Rewrite y''+0.2y'(1-y^2)+y=0 as 1st order differential equation.

Hi bobbym, I got y(0.2)=0.122826... , is it correct?

By the way, shouldn't p'=0.2y'(1-y^2)-y? The answers are slightly different this way, I got y(0.1)=0.109198 and y(0.2)=0.117486. Would you check it for me please. Thanks!

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#29 2012-04-22 05:21:40

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Re: Rewrite y''+0.2y'(1-y^2)+y=0 as 1st order differential equation.

Hi bubokribuck;

Very good you are correct about the missing y'! Please let me see your calculation of y(.1) and y(.2)


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#30 2012-04-22 06:58:28

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Re: Rewrite y''+0.2y'(1-y^2)+y=0 as 1st order differential equation.

Hi, here's my calculations:










Also, how can I find the analytical solution for the problem please?

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#31 2012-04-22 07:06:41

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Re: Rewrite y''+0.2y'(1-y^2)+y=0 as 1st order differential equation.

Hi;

I would do this step last and not first

because you start with x0.

An analytical solution is unlikely. This DE has non linear terms y^2 and y'y.


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#32 2012-04-22 10:39:46

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Re: Rewrite y''+0.2y'(1-y^2)+y=0 as 1st order differential equation.

Hi, is there any analytical solution for the following problems please?


If there is any, how can I find it please?

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#33 2012-04-22 13:41:47

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Re: Rewrite y''+0.2y'(1-y^2)+y=0 as 1st order differential equation.

Hi;

For the first one I had mathematica run it off:

is a solution.

The second one has non linear terms in it so again no analytical answer.


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