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Prove that

without using the Geometric Mean Arithmetic Mean inequality'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

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What was that??!!

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I think you can use the inductive step of the inductive proof for the AM-GM inequality.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi Agnishom;

What is wrong?

The first line is from the problem itself. The second line is known to inequality provers. You can not even get it with a package! It is derived from this relationship:

Before we go further do you understand why the proof works? It is a very important concept in these type of proofs.

Would you like to see some more proofs of this?

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No I really don't understand that.

I would be very happy to see it explained

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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The first thing is that no constraints are given for the variables. We will assume that they are all >=0.

Look at the RHS. The first term is now clearly positive.

The second term is also positive because each term is squared.

Multiplying two positive numbers yields a positive number so we have:

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Hmmmm....

Thank You

I think my Father told me this but I forgot

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

It is a little easier to understand with a trivial example:

Prove, with a,b>=0;

Square both sides:

The boxed term is positive!

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

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My father showed me this one.

But he couldn't solve it for 3 variables

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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The one you posted is quite difficult according to the book.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

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According to which book?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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According to any book you used to teach pupils.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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According to which book?

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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May I ask why is my that topic on Geogebra closed?

"Of all the triangles possible within a givin perimeter, the equilateral triangle has the largest possible area"

What is this property called?

Am I allowed to call it "The Isoperimetric Property of an Equilateral Triangle"

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Yes, you may ask that and it is a darn good question. I wanted to keep it clean until you were ready. It is now open for business.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

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