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**MathsIsFun****Administrator**- Registered: 2005-01-21
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I have a new logo/header for the Math is Fun website: http://www.mathsisfun.com/

(Use refresh to make sure you have the latest design)

I have refrained from using plus or minus symbols, or even square roots.

And I really liked the old header (boy/girl), but I felt that it might be a little "age-ist" and make anyone older than them feel they shouldn't be on the site.

Anyways, if you have any suggestions for this new one, colors, design, etc, feel free to comment.

"The physicists defer only to mathematicians, and the mathematicians defer only to God ..." - Leon M. Lederman

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi MIF;

The page always looked good. But the top now looks a little bare. Something needs to go there but I have know idea what it should be.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.** **A number by itself is useful, but it is far more useful to know how accurate or certain that number is.**

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**Calligar****Member**- Registered: 2011-09-24
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So far, I think it's a little bit of an improvement. Honestly, I never quite understood the boy/girl thing myself, I went more with the assumption that it was like showing an example of them enjoying math. Anyway, as for the new one, it seems a little more...bland maybe, but I personally feel it's better suiting. As for any suggestions, maybe suggest showing more math like you did on the old one. For instance, you name your site math is fun, so maybe try to put something showing something fun in math, though obviously not being too involved.

As what specifically that should be, I might have an idea... On your forum, you have the category called, "This Is Cool." Maybe have a poll or something to vote for one of these things that would be best for the header? Just an idea, because, that might be a way of showing something interesting and attractive in math, and might be able to show some people how fun and interesting math can be.

There are always other variables. -[unknown]

But Nature flies from the infinite, for the infinite is unending or imperfect, and Nature ever seeks an end. -Aristotle

Everything makes sense, one only needs to figure out how. -[unknown]

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**MathsIsFun****Administrator**- Registered: 2005-01-21
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Yes, a little bare.

I could add: infinity, pi, a sine curve, an ellipse, some circles, a torus, the platonic solids ...

"The physicists defer only to mathematicians, and the mathematicians defer only to God ..." - Leon M. Lederman

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Or you could boldly add my picture. Along with yours of course.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.** **A number by itself is useful, but it is far more useful to know how accurate or certain that number is.**

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**Calligar****Member**- Registered: 2011-09-24
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Hmm, call me crazy, but I don't think that might be such a bad idea. I mean, adding in the faces of all the administrators could also lead more people into the forum, even recognize them (who have never been to the forum before). I don't know if this is the best way explaining this, but it could help with comfortableness. Though, it is honestly a little bit of a shot too, I'm only saying it **might** be a good idea, I'm honestly not the most sure. I'm still more thinking something showing math being fun and interesting is better though...

There are always other variables. -[unknown]

But Nature flies from the infinite, for the infinite is unending or imperfect, and Nature ever seeks an end. -Aristotle

Everything makes sense, one only needs to figure out how. -[unknown]

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi MIF and Calligar;

I was just kidding.

MIF wrote:

I could add: infinity, pi, a sine curve, an ellipse, some circles, a torus, the platonic solids ...

That will look good.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.** **A number by itself is useful, but it is far more useful to know how accurate or certain that number is.**

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**Calligar****Member**- Registered: 2011-09-24
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I know you were, but I honestly see some potential in it, even if you don't.

There are always other variables. -[unknown]

But Nature flies from the infinite, for the infinite is unending or imperfect, and Nature ever seeks an end. -Aristotle

Everything makes sense, one only needs to figure out how. -[unknown]

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

I think my picture would scare potential members away.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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hi MathsIsFun,

I like the new logo. Clever that it could be "Maths Is Fun" or "Math Is Fun" or even "Math's Fun".

If the path was a yellow brick road and the "Welcome to ..." was in bold black it would stand out more.

Like the idea of adding infinity, pi etc.

Pictures? I think not. Real identities may be hidden on the site and generally are. So the precedent is unwise.

The picture links to activites, worksheets etc are good but the colours look a little dull. Constable made his paintings sparkle by adding highlights. So I'm not suggesting that each picture should be like baby toys in Mothercare, just a little extra. eg That girl could have a bright yellow top. The numbers in the balance could be bright white with black lettering.

Bob

Children are not defined by school ...........The Fonz

You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him find it within himself..........Galileo Galilei

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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Here are some symbols you could add:

infinity, pi, tau, epsilon, zeta, triangle, square, circle, binomial distribution graph, some kind of 3d graph,...

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Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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**Calligar****Member**- Registered: 2011-09-24
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Since everyone seems to go for symbols, why not just use that idea? Maybe make a poll or something on what symbols to use in header?

But Nature flies from the infinite, for the infinite is unending or imperfect, and Nature ever seeks an end. -Aristotle

Everything makes sense, one only needs to figure out how. -[unknown]

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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But except for the kids there was symbols there before or does my memory fail me.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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Yes there were. They were some operaion signs (i.e. plus, minus etc.) which MIF is trying to refrain from using for some reason...

Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Sigma was always my favorite, so I vote for putting that up there.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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Big Sigma, I suppose?

Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Yes, this guy:

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**

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**MathsIsFun****Administrator**- Registered: 2005-01-21
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Plus, minus, multiply is just so cliche.

Need something cool ... maybe a 3d shape, or a puzzle, or a game board.

"The physicists defer only to mathematicians, and the mathematicians defer only to God ..." - Leon M. Lederman

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Maybe a couple of fractals, Julia set, Koch curve, Sierpinski triangle? Or something like benice generates on his site?

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**

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**Calligar****Member**- Registered: 2011-09-24
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Hmm, I wish I could help, but I'm not too good at ideas like this, anything more math related would be fine. As for shapes, I've always liked higher dimensions (4d +), specifically the pentachoron (for those who don't know what it is, just look at my picture) is my favorite, because it's literally the simplest shape beyond the 3'rd dimension. For symbols, I tend to like infinity, but it isn't as often used, simply (and if I recall correctly, you had that on the site before hand). A puzzle, I can't think of anything off the top of my head that's simple enough to put into a header, maybe mazes (I like them, but I don't personally think it's the best idea for this...)? A game board, um... chess is usually known for being a thinking game. Sorry, just throwing out ideas to possibly help...

But Nature flies from the infinite, for the infinite is unending or imperfect, and Nature ever seeks an end. -Aristotle

Everything makes sense, one only needs to figure out how. -[unknown]

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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You could have the Hilbert curve going all the way behind everything, like in the background.

You could also have a ball and pins llke in the flash game in which balls had 50% chance to go left and 50% chance to go right.

Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

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**MathsIsFun****Administrator**- Registered: 2005-01-21
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Great ideas guys ... I will try some of them and see how they look.

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