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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.**

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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Hi,

*Last edited by phrontister (2012-10-31 01:48:46)*

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.**

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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Hi,

"The good news about computers is that they do what you tell them to do. The bad news is that they do what you tell them to do." - Ted Nelson

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi phrontiser;

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.**

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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Ok...good luck with that, Bobby. Bed beckons for me, so see you later.

"The good news about computers is that they do what you tell them to do. The bad news is that they do what you tell them to do." - Ted Nelson

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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Hi Bobby,

*Last edited by phrontister (2012-10-31 10:52:25)*

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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Hi Bobby,

*Last edited by phrontister (2012-11-01 01:55:10)*

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, it must some bit of roundoff error in calculation. I do not see any reason for it to be different based on reversing the triangle.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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Row 1: Sqrt[175²+250²]-0.7-1/0.7 = 303.035318964, which is very close to 303. Maybe *so *close that Geogebra's rounding tipped the result to just under 303.

And could your program be contributing in some way too?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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**New problem:**

**A cow is tied to one corner ( vertex ) of a 20 m square barn. The cow has a 50 m length of chain to keep it from escaping while it is grazing. How big is the cow's grazing area?**

**A says) Obviously a circle with a 50 m radius.**

**B says) Not quite, the barn interferes with that. It is closer to...**

**C says) I can not compute it even with a supercomputer.**

**D says) What is grazing?**

**E says) It is quite easy.**

**Can you answer the question?**

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Hi bobbym

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I'm not sure... The area of the overlapping chunk seems hard to get...

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

That area can be tough and will take some work.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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**New Problem:**

**ITCWY #200**

**a,b,c,d are positive and rational. The two chords are perpendicular. Neither chord is a radii. See the drawing below.**

**Can you find a general expression for the lengths of a,b,c,d? Or any expression showing what values would work?**

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Hi bobbym

Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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So far?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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That is all I have since I am playing with a geogebra program. I do not have time to work on an analytical solution today.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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It's not a long solution though...

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Not yet it isn't.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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