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#26 2013-11-17 03:58:16

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Re: Teach us some Maxima!

how ordinary?

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#27 2013-11-17 04:08:20

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M takes the lead again. At the wolfram demonstration page there are thousands of apps. From games to astronomy.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#28 2013-11-19 14:23:10

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Hi;

Do you have an idea of how I could learn Maxima?

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#29 2013-11-19 19:49:46

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You should take some math problems and do them in Maxima.

Learning Maxima's functions isn't the hard part, there are always the man pages. The hard part is using them correctly, which is true for any CAS.

The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
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“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

#30 2013-11-19 21:15:14

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I agree, start learning now how to use your computer to help with your math.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#31 2013-11-19 23:35:24

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You should take some math problems and do them in Maxima.

Maybe you have some?

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Who are you to judge everything?' -Alokananda

#32 2013-11-20 09:48:40

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I recommend Bafflers, Series, What do you think and Is this cool with you threads to begin with. That should keep your hands full for a while.

The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

#33 2013-11-20 10:09:09

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I heartily recommend the problems in computer math especially the ones solved by geogebra!

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#34 2013-11-20 12:01:09

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But I am a complete Novice in this field, even if I pick a problem I won't understand how to do it with Maxima

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Who are you to judge everything?' -Alokananda

#35 2013-11-20 12:06:04

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Everybody starts as a complete novice, most stay there. Some do graduate to the position of student.

You do not have to force it. Start slowly and on problems you have done already. First you must convince yourself that it really works.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#36 2013-11-20 12:08:27

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Learning Maxima's functions isn't the hard part, there are always the man pages. The hard part is using them correctly, which is true for any CAS.

That is true but in order to start learning it correctly, I need to have a tutorial on how to make the language work(in some way, not necessarily the optimal).

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Who are you to judge everything?' -Alokananda

#37 2013-11-20 12:10:43

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Maxima has limited documentation and no forums that I know of. You will have to experiment.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#38 2013-11-20 12:14:34

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He could teach me what he knows.

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Who are you to judge everything?' -Alokananda

#39 2013-11-20 12:33:42

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I do not have any how to maxima book. I do not know of one.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#40 2013-11-20 12:35:26

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Stefy already knows the amount of Maxima I need to know to start working. He could shed light

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Who are you to judge everything?' -Alokananda

#41 2013-11-20 12:41:21

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Yes he could but a CAS is not a spectator sport. It is not a bunch of lectures given by a professor. It is a hands on thing. You have to get your hands dirty then we can help.

I am now going to cook some chicken cacciatore, Angela style. see you afterwards. Have a good day at school, study hard.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#42 2013-11-20 12:44:26

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I know but not unless I understand its syntax and how it is programmed, I will need some lectures. For example, I do not understand the loops, string processing, type conversation, etc in Maxima

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Who are you to judge everything?' -Alokananda

#43 2013-11-20 19:39:42

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I will go over them with you but remember you will be using it as a CAS and will have little need for those procedural goodies.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#44 2013-11-20 20:06:33

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The thing I hate about Maxima, now that I've used M for a while, is that it doesn't have a few functions ehich are a must, such as Select, Total, etc.

The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

#45 2013-11-20 23:35:54

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You can program them and include them in the maxima initialisation file.

I will go over them with you but remember you will be using it as a CAS and will have little need for those procedural goodies.

Suppose I am asked Find the number of 4 digit palindromes that are divisible by 7, then I'll need string processing

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Who are you to judge everything?' -Alokananda

#46 2013-11-21 00:42:12

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Re: Teach us some Maxima!

Hi;

Yes, that will call for using your CAS as a language.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#47 2013-11-21 00:58:12

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and those problems appear in Brilliant

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Who are you to judge everything?' -Alokananda

#48 2013-11-21 01:15:03

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Your problem #22, has or will eventually.

I am writing up the solution.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#49 2013-11-21 02:39:36

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Agnishom wrote:

Hmm, you are correct. Python 2.7.3 gave a MemoryError

This is what is at #22

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Who are you to judge everything?' -Alokananda

#50 2013-11-21 02:48:08

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Problem #22 if I remember correctly.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.