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#1 2014-03-02 19:02:12

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Consistency Hypothesis

Conjecture There exists a finite set of bobbym quotes such that for every situation that ever exists, there exists a quote in that set which is the appropriate reaction to the situation.

Current State of the Art Please see the The Blue Book of bobbym Quotes thread.

Possible Applications in the Future With considerable advancements in Artificial Intelligence programming, we will be able to create a nice auto-responder that could be used to spam various online communities


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#2 2014-03-20 22:26:14

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Re: Consistency Hypothesis

Great application - we could call it superbob.


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#3 2014-03-21 01:36:27

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Re: Consistency Hypothesis

Superm makes more sense. Or maybe we should can the whole idea.


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#4 2015-05-31 19:29:49

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Re: Consistency Hypothesis

State of the art: kabooblydoo.com


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
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#5 2015-05-31 20:57:29

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Re: Consistency Hypothesis

It needs more work.


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#6 2015-05-31 23:24:47

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Re: Consistency Hypothesis

It needs a pappym


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
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#7 2015-05-31 23:30:58

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Re: Consistency Hypothesis

The conjecture should be false.


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#8 2015-05-31 23:40:58

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Re: Consistency Hypothesis

Why?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
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#9 2015-05-31 23:42:03

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Re: Consistency Hypothesis

The Entscheidungsproblem.


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#10 2015-06-01 00:20:20

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Re: Consistency Hypothesis

How does that relate?


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#11 2015-06-01 00:36:14

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Re: Consistency Hypothesis

Turing and Church proved that it would take an infinite number of methods to solve an infinite number of problems. In other words no finite set of methods would suffice. I reason that no finite amount of quotes would suffice either.


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#12 2015-06-01 00:41:31

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Re: Consistency Hypothesis

I don't think that applies here.

There exists a finite combination of bobbym quotes which could be used to generate ideas of arbitrary kolmogorov complexity

Last edited by Agnishom (2015-06-01 00:42:42)


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#13 2015-06-01 00:44:04

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It might. The set theory example is that no finite amount of axioms can answer all questions, so why should a finite number of quotes?


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#14 2015-06-01 00:58:45

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Re: Consistency Hypothesis

There are languages which are both complete and consistent


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
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#15 2015-06-01 01:03:55

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Re: Consistency Hypothesis

But you are asking for a set of quotes that cover all situations. It is easy to come up with such a set but they seem to be trivial.


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#16 2015-06-01 01:22:46

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I am not asking for it. I am saying that there is


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#17 2015-06-01 01:30:00

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Re: Consistency Hypothesis

But bobbym quotes do not cover every situation.


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#18 2015-06-01 01:49:34

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Re: Consistency Hypothesis

But bobbym is awesome


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#19 2015-06-01 01:56:46

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Re: Consistency Hypothesis

He is neither awesome or interesting. I know him and he is rather ordinary. Every time he tells me the IQ test story I laugh so hard my spleen explodes.


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#20 2015-06-01 06:07:04

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Re: Consistency Hypothesis

hi Agnishom,

You are right to give this thread the title 'Consistency Hypothesis'.    Is your theory consistent?  Is your conjecture true ?

Consider this:

Universal set = {every situation that ever exists}

That includes this situation:

There exists "a situation in which there is no appropriate quote for that situation".

For if that situation doesn't exist then there is a situation that isn't in the Universal set  =><=

Therefore your conjecture is false (sorry sad ) and your theory inconsistent.

Bob

ps.  What is the IQ test story ?


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#21 2015-06-01 13:09:10

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I think you are right but may be we can reword the theory?

Here is the story:

bobbym wrote:

Okay, for you I will tell.

When I tested it caused a stir. The colonel who was conducting the tests said either I was darn near a genius or I was slightly smarter than an apple. They could not figure which was true so they tested me again. This chart explains the results:

Bonzo the chimp
Bertha the chimp
Busby the chimp
Beyonce - Rihanna - Spears a tie!
Paris Hilton
lemur
bobbym
apple
combined IQ's of the US senate
a pear
a peach pit
amoeba

My parents and teachers were outraged, they shook their fists at him and threatened to disembowel him. But he brought soldiers with him that escorted him out safely. Everyone tried to comfort me, do not listen to him they said, we all know you are a genius and will accomplish great things. I sure showed them!

P.S: Does this sound like bobbym?

Last edited by Agnishom (2015-06-01 13:10:25)


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
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#22 2015-06-01 13:32:06

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Bumpkins are for integration?

You made me read that story again and I am laughing and suffering from a ruptured spleen. You should hear how bobbym tells it.


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#23 2015-06-01 14:42:57

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Re: Consistency Hypothesis

bobbym wrote:

Bumpkins are for integration?

Meaning?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'But our love is like the wind. I can't see it but I can feel it.' -A Walk to remember

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#24 2015-06-01 17:39:40

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Re: Consistency Hypothesis

bob bundy wrote:

hi Agnishom,

You are right to give this thread the title 'Consistency Hypothesis'.    Is your theory consistent?  Is your conjecture true ?

Consider this:

Universal set = {every situation that ever exists}

That includes this situation:

There exists "a situation in which there is no appropriate quote for that situation".

For if that situation doesn't exist then there is a situation that isn't in the Universal set  =><=

Therefore your conjecture is false (sorry sad ) and your theory inconsistent.

Bob

ps.  What is the IQ test story ?

How are so sure the situation you described exists?


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#25 2015-06-01 18:31:07

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Meaning?

That was written by that impostor.


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