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#1 2015-02-14 10:10:22

frankbaugh
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expand (a+b)!

This is kind of basic compared to most of the stuff on the forum, but I was trying to find a definitive answer of n choose n-1.    so n!/(n!(n-n-1)!) = n!/n!(-1)!   and negatives don't have factorials. So I tried to expand (n-n-1)! To no avail. Does anyone have an answer? I tried (a+b)!(a+b-1)!(a+b-2)!.... (a+b-a+b)! But no idea how to do that.... Please help me!!

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#2 2015-02-14 10:32:39

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Re: expand (a+b)!

Your problem is simply dealing with the brackets (and it seems you made a small error in the formula).

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#3 2015-02-14 10:36:12

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Re: expand (a+b)!

Surely (n-(n-1))! = (n-n-1)! = (0-1)! = (-1)! With bidmas

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#4 2015-02-14 10:53:03

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Re: expand (a+b)!

No, you're not distributing the minus sign over the bracket.

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#5 2015-02-14 11:04:09

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Re: expand (a+b)!

Ok but can you still expand (a+b)!

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#6 2015-02-14 11:08:54

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Re: expand (a+b)!

I can't do anything more for you without additional information about a,b. Is this what you were looking for?

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#7 2015-02-14 11:32:12

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Re: expand (a+b)!

So is this as far as maths can possibly take us? What if (a+b)^(a+b)(-(1*2*3*4...a+b))

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#8 2015-02-14 21:04:31

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Re: expand (a+b)!

I don't understand what you're asking. Is this related to a problem you're working on? If so, it would help if you posted the problem in full detail, or provided a bit more information.

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#9 2015-02-15 07:17:58

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Re: expand (a+b)!

For example, (a+b)^n = sigma bla bla bla.   so what is (a+b)! Expanded?

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#10 2015-02-15 08:16:15

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Re: expand (a+b)!

Hi;

If you mean a similar identity to ( a + b )^n I am not aware of one. There are Taylor series expansions for that though.


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