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#1 2015-02-25 12:33:01

Heron
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Probability Question

Hey guys,
This website seems like it has an amazing community, so I thought you might be able to help me. I am doing homework for my math class, but this one probability question keeps stumping me!

"Jan has a stack of 8 cards consisting of J,J,J,J,Q,Q,Q,Q. Jan shuffles the stack then deals out the top 3 cards. What is the probability that two of the cards dealt were Jacks and one was a Queen?"   

I keep calculating

. However, the answer is
. Could someone show me how to derive this answer?

#2 2015-02-25 12:55:26

anonimnystefy
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Re: Probability Question

Hej Heron,

What you have calculated is probability of getting JJQ, in that order. You also have JQJ and QJJ, which have the same probabilities as JJQ, so it's just 3*1/7=3/7.

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#3 2015-02-25 14:24:39

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Re: Probability Question

Hi;

These are the 8 possibilities...

{{j, j, j}, {j, j, q}, {j, q, j}, {j, q, q}, {q, j, j}, {q, j, q}, {q,q, j}, {q, q, q}}


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#4 2015-02-25 17:57:46

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Re: Probability Question

Heron wrote:

What is the probability that two of the cards dealt were Jacks and one was a Queen?

He wants exactly two Jacks and one Queen to be dealt.


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#5 2015-02-25 20:02:35

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Re: Probability Question

Hi;

I know that, I am saying should it not be 3/8 instead of 3/7?


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#6 2015-02-25 20:18:06

Bob
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Re: Probability Question

hi Heron,

Welcome to the forum.

This is my explanation.

P(JJQ) = 4/8 x 3/7 x 4/6

P(JQJ) = 4/8 x 4/7 x 3/6

P(QJJ) = 4/8 x 4/7 x 3/6

This P(JJQ in any order+ = 3 x 4/8 x 4/7 x 3/6 = 3/7

Bob


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#7 2015-02-25 20:45:56

ElainaVW
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Re: Probability Question

Hi Bobbym;

I know that, I am saying should it not be 3/8 instead of 3/7?

A curious oversight. Aren't you claiming that each of those 8 possibilities are equally likely?

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#8 2015-02-25 20:52:28

bobbym
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Re: Probability Question

Hi;

A curious oversight. Aren't you claiming that each of those 8 possibilities are equally likely?

That gator must have landed one too many blows to my melon. You are correct, Bob's analysis is the right way, I am sorry all.


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#9 2015-02-25 20:56:41

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Re: Probability Question

See you in Florida after I get back. smile

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#10 2015-02-25 20:58:11

bobbym
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Re: Probability Question

When will that be? Have you seen the rational term problem on the other forum?


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