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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
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This problem appears in another thread:

We are asked to find the roots.

It is obvious that even M will have problems simplifying this so we can try a numerical attack. Mind you getting all the roots will be difficult since we do not have the luxury of even knowing how many there are.

The form given is already a recurrence so we will try that first.

We try:

`x = .5;`

`x = ArcSin[2 Tan[x]^2] - (1/2) ArcTan[(3 Sin[2 x])/(4 Cos[2 x] + 5)]`

Iterating this we find that x is approaching 0. We check and find that 0 is indeed a root.

We try again with another guess,

`x = .7;`

`x = ArcSin[2 Tan[x]^2] - (1/2) ArcTan[(3 Sin[2 x])/(4 Cos[2 x] + 5)]`

Iterating this appears to stabilize at

x = -1.570796326794897 - 1.945432927750411 i

We can immediately clean this up a bit with the ansatz that we are dealing with

we check and this too appears to be a root. Graphing shows that there are at least 2 real roots and to find another we use Newtons.

`x = .5;`

`x = x - (x - ArcSin[2 Tan[x]^2] + (1/2) ArcTan[(3 Sin[2 x])/(4 Cos[2 x] + 5)])/(1 + ((6 Cos[2 x])/(5 + 4 Cos[2 x]) + (24 Sin[2 x]^2)/(5 + 4 Cos[2 x])^2)/(2 (1 + (9 Sin[2 x]^2)/(5 + 4 Cos[2 x])^2)) - (4 Sec[x]^2 Tan[x])/ Sqrt[1 - 4 Tan[x]^4])`

Iterating this produces x = 0.5127879211591762, this is another real root.

So we have 3 roots at least, there are probably more...Can you find some?

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**** Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.**

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Where is the other thread? And this theead deserves a better title

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
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I do not remember. The title says it all.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**** Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.**

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