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How do I approximate the following Triple Sum?

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Agnishom: I have a lower bound of 2.34 but nothing more than that.

zetafunc: I am getting about 1.64 for that double sum. Are you sure about 3?

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Never mind.

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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I do not know the first line. What did you use there?

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Sorry, I made a mistake. I mistakenly thought that

where is the beta function, and is the gamma function. But of course, the denominator is actually not .**LearnMathsFree: Videos on various topics.New: Integration Problem | Adding FractionsPopular: Continued Fractions | Metric Spaces | Duality**

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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Does that change your answer?

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Yes, because there will be an extra factor. You can however say that the double sum is:

then maybe replace the beta function with its integral representation and go from there. For Agnishom's triple sum, my idea is to either use a modified beta function (with 3 arguments rather than 2) and repeat the same procedure, or try to compare with the trinomial theorem.

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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We are going to need some analytical approach for the 3 sum because numerically it is very difficult.

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How would an experimental mathematician do it?

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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How would an experimental mathematician do it?

He would try to get a very accurate numerical answer is one way. I have already given you a lower bound.

zetafunc: I would guess that your sum

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That upper bound is correct. How do I do better?

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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How much accuracy do you require and that is a lower bound.

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Yep, that lower bound is correct.

How about 8 digits?

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Yep, that lower bound is correct.

You have the answer already?

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Yes, I have a closed form answer

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hmmm, I will try for a digit or two more but that will be difficult.

My closed form involves zeta(3).

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But how did you go about doing it?

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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I used M of course and lots of CPU cycles.

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And that gave you zeta(3)?

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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No, there was more than that but zeta(3) was part of the conjectured form.

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