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## #1 2006-09-22 18:15:21

ganesh
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### Transcendental Numbers

Whats so special about the TN
1.444667861..................??????

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## #2 2006-09-22 18:41:26

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### Re: Transcendental Numbers

Do a google search for "1.444667861", and look at the first result

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## #3 2006-09-22 18:46:15

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### Re: Transcendental Numbers

whats a transcendantal number? also why is pi pi? i mean as in why is 1.something called pi whats so special about it?

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## #4 2006-09-22 20:03:35

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### Re: Transcendental Numbers

Transcendental Numbers are numbers that cannot be written using an equation.
Like x²+1=0.
If Google has a result for 1.444667861, I am happy. I shall search and then post.

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## #5 2006-09-22 20:13:10

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### Re: Transcendental Numbers

I hope it returns the same result for you that it did for me.

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## #6 2006-09-22 20:17:23

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### Re: Transcendental Numbers

i dont get it still...

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## #7 2006-09-22 20:32:17

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### Re: Transcendental Numbers

Wow! We get back to MathsIsFun forum

espeon, you'd have to wait a little

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## #8 2006-09-22 21:05:36

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### Re: Transcendental Numbers

Aw ok

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## #9 2006-09-23 02:36:53

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### Re: Transcendental Numbers

A number that can't be written as an equation eh? Infatuating!

A logarithm is just a misspelled algorithm.

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## #10 2006-09-23 03:48:34

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### Re: Transcendental Numbers

Can you prove it's transcendental?

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## #11 2006-09-23 04:02:02

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### Re: Transcendental Numbers

espeon wrote:

whats a transcendantal number? also why is pi pi? i mean as in why is 1.something called pi whats so special about it?

Pi is the ratio of a circle's diameter to it's circumference. So if you measured both of these on any given circle, you would find that:

circumference = pi * diameter.

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## #12 2006-09-24 01:24:41

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### Re: Transcendental Numbers

pi is 1. 4 something ssomething and i don hve a clur what transcendental ismlol

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## #13 2006-09-24 03:02:48

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### Re: Transcendental Numbers

Pi is 3.141592... (the digits go on for ever, and never repeat)

The numbers on the number line can be split onto two groups: those that are algebraic and those that are transcendental.

Algebraic numbers are a solution to a polynomial equation* where all the coefficients** are whole numbers. So, for example, the number 2 is algebraic, because it is the solution to the equation:

the number [sup]3[/sup]/[sub]2[/sub] is algebraic because it is the solution of:

and the square root of 2 is algebraic, as it is the solution of:

A transcendental number is any number that is not algebraic. As it happens, pi is transcendental.

* a polynomial equation is one like:

or

or

** in the above equations,

,
,
and
are the coefficients of the equation.

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## #14 2006-09-24 04:18:43

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### Re: Transcendental Numbers

dont worry i guess ill learn it in key stage 4 or something

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## #15 2006-09-25 18:36:53

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### Re: Transcendental Numbers

espeon wrote:

dont worry i guess ill learn it in key stage 4 or something

doubt it, im moving onto A-Level maths, and ive never even heard of transcendental numbers before now

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## #16 2006-09-26 03:16:22

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### Re: Transcendental Numbers

o good luck in ur a lvls

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## #17 2017-04-29 10:04:29

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### Re: Transcendental Numbers

ganesh wrote:

Whats so special about the TN
1.444667861..................??????

Is it known if this number (i.e. e^(1/e)) is transcendental?

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## #18 2017-04-29 22:21:16

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### Re: Transcendental Numbers

Hi zetafunc,

is 1 and
is
.

approaches 2.7182818284....

I think it is transcendental. I am not too sure.

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## #19 2017-05-02 14:27:03

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### Re: Transcendental Numbers

zetafunc wrote:
ganesh wrote:

Whats so special about the TN
1.444667861..................??????

Is it known if this number (i.e. e^(1/e)) is transcendental?

It has not been proven to be transcendental, I don't think.

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