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#551 2011-04-10 21:52:53

gAr
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Re: Is this cool with you?

Oh, ok.
I thought you started the "computer math" forum.

Anyway, happy second anniversary in MIF forum in advance!


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#552 2011-04-10 21:57:25

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi;

Thanks, I have had a really good time.

I did start that forum but I had to ask MIF because he is the one who can actually press the buttons to make it.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#553 2011-04-10 22:01:58

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Hi bobbym,

Ok, since these two threads are likely to continue I suggested like that.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#554 2011-04-10 22:10:47

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Re: Is this cool with you?

It is hard to cross reference them. But I do not think their is any room for any more of my ideas.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#555 2011-04-16 21:32:40

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Re: Is this cool with you?

bobbym wrote:

New Problem!

Can you find any solution of:

with a,b,c,d all positive and different and all integers.

A says) Yes, I can and without a computer again!
B says) My method is better because it only uses algebra.
C says) I did not get any answers in integers. I do not think there is one.
D says) You are right C there are no solutions. Imagine we are right and the two geniuses are wrong!

Can you find an answer? Can you find A or B's idea for full credit?

Last edited by 123ronnie321 (2011-04-17 02:39:19)

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#556 2011-04-16 22:00:11

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi 123ronnie321;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#557 2011-04-17 02:41:37

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Oh! I also forgot to hide the ans. That was my first post using latex!

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#558 2011-04-17 06:49:20

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi 123ronnie321;

You did well! Thank you for looking at the problem.

Oh! I also forgot to hide the ans. That was my first post using latex!

You are hooked now!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#559 2011-04-18 00:22:03

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Thank you!::)

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#560 2011-04-21 19:22:18

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Re: Is this cool with you?

You are welcome!

New problem!

A bullfrog leaps 2 meters in some direction. Does not like its location so it randomly leaps n meters again in some direction. If its odds of being within 1 meter from its original position are 1 / 6 then what is n?

A says) 1 meter of course.

B says) Nope! I did not get that.

C says) So what! I got n = 2 meters.

B says ) I think the correct answer is between A and C's answers.

D says) By golly you are right. n = √2.

B says) I did not say that.

D says) Well what else could it be?

E says) How about a bit bigger?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#561 2011-04-21 21:26:47

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#562 2011-04-21 21:33:43

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi 123ronnie321;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#563 2011-04-21 23:41:39

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi bobbym,


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#564 2011-04-21 23:50:24

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi gAr;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#565 2011-04-22 01:00:38

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi bobbym,


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#566 2011-04-22 01:04:02

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi gAr;

It did to me too. I worked on that way until I stumbled on to the other idea. You see if you work with areas I could not get a number as high as 1 / 6.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#567 2011-04-22 03:24:02

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi bobbym,

Last edited by gAr (2011-04-22 04:57:32)


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#568 2011-04-22 08:24:38

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi; gAr;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#569 2011-04-22 13:57:24

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi bobbym,

I too used geogebra!


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#570 2011-04-22 15:38:46

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Did you get a different drawing that what I got?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#571 2011-04-22 16:19:06

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Probably I too have the same drawing. I don't think it can be different.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#572 2011-04-22 17:13:54

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Re: Is this cool with you?

How did you come up with your formula then? I got the answer but did not see any more than that.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#573 2011-04-22 17:27:10

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Re: Is this cool with you?

That formula is just to find the angle between the tangents or secants.
Then used geogebra.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#574 2011-04-22 17:28:26

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Do you think there is another way to do that problem?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#575 2011-04-22 17:38:04

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Re: Is this cool with you?

No easier way, I guess.
In your problem, n was fixed. If it was like "leaps a distance upto n meters", then we must consider the common area, isn't it?


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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