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#26 Re: Help Me ! » Set notation for corresponding sets » 2013-10-25 09:14:50

As there are no replies I will assume there are no outrageous errors, except I think maybe I should have written

with the factorial if I wanted to say "there exists one and only one".

Thanks for the help, guys.

#27 Re: Help Me ! » Set notation for corresponding sets » 2013-10-22 05:20:07

Okay, here is what I have. I would appreciate any edits or suggestions anyone who knows sets or mathematical writings might have to offer to help improve the quality of what I have so far.

---

If time is initially defined as a well-ordered uncountable set

[in that it might be said to go from ±∞], the set T might be written so as to contain some boundary condition

so that it can be rewritten as

;

but if we further define the set as being of certain relevance to only that boundary condition Z, we say let

so as to be redefined as

.

Suppose then we have a series of events in time that are also restricted to Z (which is actually what I intend to be the reason for why Z is a boundary condition in the first place) and let that ordered set (ordered because it corresponds to time T) be given by

.

Because every event in E corresponds to no more and no less than one event in T,

(meant to read: a function t is the mapping of the set E to the set T such that for all t's in the set T there exists one and only one e in E such that t as a function of e is equal to t)

such that for a bijector J between T and E,

so that

and

that is, the cardinality of both sets is equal such that the magnitude of both sets is equal:

.


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Thank you for any and all input. Any and all critiques and edits are welcome.

P. S. Yes, starting out with the most fundamental definition of time is a goal, then to be worked out so as to be limited to the specified boundary condition which is so-bounded because of the set of E being the only set where T is relevant.

#28 Re: This is Cool » Inverse Graphing Calculator » 2013-10-20 01:48:25

As previously stated, I gave it an implicit plot. I determined the domain by finding where the radicand was zero and because I knew the "letter" would be in height some value close to its width I just made the range equal to its domain. In the case of the letter N I believe it was from x = 2..4.

The plot didn't look that great but it may be fixed by upping the number of points with the numpoint option. I did one letter because the equations are gigantic. I just thought it was a fun program. It would be more fun if you could copy and paste the math into something like Maple but all it yields is a picture of the equation.

#29 This is Cool » Inverse Graphing Calculator » 2013-10-19 11:30:54

Reuel
Replies: 4

Hi!

I found this, did a few quick searches, and decided no one had posted it yet.

Here is a calculator that you type a phrase into and a mathematical equation is made that will graph the phrase you have typed.

http://www.xamuel.com/inverse-graphing-calculator.php

I tried a simple one in Maple (the letter N) as an implicit plot and it wasn't perfect, and the equations are so long they have little (if any) practical use, but I thought it was interesting and could be a fun way to send messages to your friends.

Or secret agent spy codes.

#30 Re: Help Me ! » Set notation for corresponding sets » 2013-10-18 02:12:16

Yes, thank you.

Are there any good books on set notation? I want to learn to write more formally in mathematics but the web sites I have looked at thus far are not so great.

Thanks again.

Actually you probably meant

but I knew what you meant.

#31 Re: Help Me ! » Set notation for corresponding sets » 2013-10-18 00:48:58

In the same fashion, if we have a number line made up of all the real numbers and if there is a boundary within

how do we say that we want to have the set of everything from a to b in terms of all reals minus everything except for what is in the set from a to b? I understand the set from a to b is a subset of all reals but how can it be defined as the set of all reals minus everything except what exists within the set a->b?

On a related note, does anyone know of a good web site or book that teaches all about set notations? I checked out Khan Academy but there were only a few videos on the basics.

Thanks.

#32 Re: Help Me ! » Set notation for corresponding sets » 2013-10-15 05:56:55

Thank you! That is exactly what I was looking for.

#33 Help Me ! » Set notation for corresponding sets » 2013-10-15 05:10:22

Reuel
Replies: 7

Hi!

I don't know a lot about sets or set notation but I have taught myself the basics. I was wondering if anyone could please tell me how to formally make the statement that the members of two sets directly correspond with each other.

For instance, if we have two arbitrary sets


and we wish to make the statement that 0 corresponds with a, 1 corresponds with b, etc., how would we go about doing that?

Also, they are not the same set. A real world example might be moments in time and events in time where each event occurs in each moment. What would be the formal mathematical expression?

Thanks! smile

#35 Re: Help Me ! » Relation between hyperbolas and rational expressions » 2013-10-10 11:52:50

Hey.

I am also sorry for not being around. I have been really sick.

Yes, that would be the equation I am looking for. The cone and plane that intersect to form that particular hyperbola.

Thanks so much.

#36 Re: Help Me ! » Relation between hyperbolas and rational expressions » 2013-09-26 01:37:28

Ah, I remember. If the rational expression is a hyperbola that means it is a conic section; if a conic section then it is defined as the intersection of a plane with a double cone.

What is the equation of that plane that intersects the cone - for f(x) not the standard form of a hyperbola? I have read about it on wikipedia but I am not sure how to go about finding the equation for the plane that represents f(x) itself which, as I have shown, is rotated and shifted.

Thanks. And good luck with your gardening. You must not have too much more to do given the time of year unless you live in a warm part of the globe. Where I live we are guaranteed frost-free-ness until early October or so. Or so I have heard. I don't have a garden so I don't pay that much attention.

#37 Re: Help Me ! » Relation between hyperbolas and rational expressions » 2013-09-25 06:34:31

Oh, thanks. The generalization would be

.

It seems I had another question about this subject but I forget now what it was. Oh well. If I think of it I'll speak up. smile

Thanks again for your input and feedback.

#38 Re: Help Me ! » Relation between hyperbolas and rational expressions » 2013-09-24 02:55:50

A "proof" is here given. I put proof in quotations as this is rather inductive and I still do not know how to go from one to the other. It could be very difficult given the thing is full of transcendentals but maybe there is an easier way than the following I have yet to see. As it is, graphing can show the following is apparently accurate.


That a rational expression of the form

is a rectangular hyperbola of the standard form

...

The value of "a" has been analytically found to be that of

and the center (h,k) is given by

both of which are values crucial to the problem. Please note that "a" in the hyperbola is not the same "a" in f. I went ahead and used the same symbol as we use the hyperbolic a very little. The difference between them is obvious based on the context of my work.

We can solve the equation for y,

but as it is unclear what to do with that we can switch to a parametric form of the hyperbola


The transformation matrix for the rotation of the parametric system by some angle is that of

such that its application for a 7π/4 rotation upon our vector curve <x,y> yields the vector-valued functions


Next, the curve, while the correct shape, is in the wrong location on the plane and simply needs shifted over and up by the original center of the hyperbola which yields the solution



I apologize for any errors made in my work.



Example: If

then f is a rectangular hyperbola. In standard form that hyperbola has the equation

.

Omitting all the steps already given in the general form above, the solution is


If f(x) is plotted so as to go from x = 0 to x = 5/3 the parametric equivalent is approximately t=-0.3398369094 to t=0.3398369094 or, if you prefer, the exact value is

.

The reason for choosing these bounds is completely by preference; it is where the domain is equal to the range such that f(5/3) = 5/3.

#39 Re: Help Me ! » Relation between hyperbolas and rational expressions » 2013-09-22 07:36:32

bob bundy - I have already successfully converted from a given rational function to a standard hyperbolic by finding a and b (which turn out to be equal because the hyperbola is rectangular) but as I have said in my reply to another user I want to also know how to move in the other direction which is more difficult.

Perhaps a better way of stating my question would be to say that I would like to know how to rotate and shift a hyperbola into a rational function. I was hoping someone knew of a simple trick so I wouldn't have to get into coordinate transformations, though I am willing to learn anything I have to to solve a math problem.

#40 Re: Help Me ! » Relation between hyperbolas and rational expressions » 2013-09-22 07:33:28

anonimnystefy: They are the same kind of graph only, as I have said, different by 45 degrees in a rotational sense. Suppose you want to get a rational function that is some hyperbola without knowing p, q, or r or anything about it such as its center, foci, vertices, etc. and all you have is a hyperbola in standard form in terms of a and perhaps b. How do you get the hyperbolic "standard" into the form of the rational function? That is the problem I am seeking help with.

Thanks to all who have and will reply. I am grateful for this forum and for your help.

#41 Re: Help Me ! » Relation between hyperbolas and rational expressions » 2013-09-22 07:25:47

According to your signature I have taught you nothing but have only helped you find it in yourself. smile

Thanks for the link. I was actually just exploring the topics discussed in the article myself a while ago, experimenting with what effect changing the different parameters has on the graph of a rational function.

So if anyone can explain how to go from one form to the other, from the standard form in terms of a (and maybe a b also) to a rational function, I would appreciate it. smile

#42 Re: Help Me ! » Relation between hyperbolas and rational expressions » 2013-09-22 07:17:45

Certainly. For instance, I believe its center is at

and the vertices, foci, etc. can be found.

#43 Help Me ! » Relation between hyperbolas and rational expressions » 2013-09-22 06:43:48

Reuel
Replies: 21

Hello.

I would appreciate some help in better understanding the key relations between a rectangular hyperbola in standard form,

and a rational function of the form

such that both are symmetric in the same fasion.


What I know: The function f(x) is a hyperbolic that has been rotated 45 degrees and shifted up and over in some manner.


What I want to know: How do the terms a, p, q, and r relate and in what way does one convert from either form to the other and vice versa?

#44 Help Me ! » Line segments within circles - terminology and proper algebra » 2012-11-02 02:24:31

Reuel
Replies: 2

Hello. I have a question about the proper terminology and algebraic communication involved in line segments within circles. I am okay at mathematics but I have never had any training on WRITING math.


Questions on algebraic language

1. Imagine you have a circle and there is a line segment within the circle but the line segment does not touch the circle itself and it is not related to anything outside of the circle. What is the proper algebraic expression for the segment and how it relates to the circle? You know, a set of points that are in the circle, etc. In addition, how would you state this scenerio mathematically for the specific case where the segment passes through the circle's center?

2. How would you write (1) for multiple segments, especially for ones that all cross through the circle's center?

3. Would it be better to state the segments as segments e.g. PQ or as vectors?




Questions on terminology

1. Is "uniform curve" a proper term for a circle? Can it be used to describe a circle?

2. Can a line segment within a circle be called a convex hull?

3. If two line segments within a circle both pass through the circle's center (so they share a point) can the circle's center be called a convex combination of the two line segments and/or their end points?



Thanks to all who answer.

#45 Re: Help Me ! » Terminology » 2012-08-30 00:06:09

Thank you, anonimnystefy. I am writing a paper and just wanted to use the correct word, if one existed.

#46 Help Me ! » Terminology » 2012-08-29 23:57:11

Reuel
Replies: 4

Hi there. I haven't been here in a while.

Is there a proper name for the interior part of a trigonometric function or is it simply called the inner function, or something to that effect? I have looked around online for an answer but I can't seem to find anything.

For example, the function

does g(x) have a proper term or name? Or is it just "the inner function"?


Thank you very much.

#47 Re: Help Me ! » Parametric value for the shortest distance from a point to a vector » 2012-05-18 06:57:27

Your answer is correct. If you plug that value in for t on the line and then calculate the length of the line segment from the point in space to the point on the line then you get my original answer for the shortest distance to the line, being 5.3753. What I didn't know how to do was to find the point on the line that this shortest distance from the point in space was.

You answered my question and now I see how to do it. Thank you. And if I have any further questions about it, I will return!

Thanks again.

#48 Re: Help Me ! » Parametric value for the shortest distance from a point to a vector » 2012-05-18 06:40:51

Bob,

Thank you for your quick many-step response! I am working out what you have said and will get back to you.

#49 Help Me ! » Parametric value for the shortest distance from a point to a vector » 2012-05-18 05:37:43

Reuel
Replies: 4

Hello.

I need to find the value for t for the point on a line in space that is closest to another point in space. How is this done?


The specific problem: At what point in space does the vector-valued function

(being a line in space) pass closest to the point

?


My work thus far: I have used the formula

where P is the point on the line

to calculate that the shortest distance from
to the line
is a distance of about
.

The question I am having trouble answering is, what value for

on
IS this shortest distance?

I am stuck and appreciate your help.

Thanks.

#50 Re: Help Me ! » Standard Mixture Problem - Differential Equation » 2011-04-27 14:43:51

I'm so sorry - I didn't see your questions from a couple of months ago.

The first-order differential equation is not separable because it is a subtraction problem and not one of multiplication or division - see how it has a minus sign. And so we need what is called an integrating factor. Here are the steps:

1) Move the part of the equation on the right hand side with the dependent variable in it to the left hand side.

2) Compute the integrating factor. That is, make up an equation where e is raised to the power of the integral of the dependent variable's maths without the independent variable itself. Here is a youtube video that teaches about the integrating factor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et4Y41ZNyao

3) Once you have the integrating factor you can plug it in as shown in line 4 of my work you quoted.

Sorry again for not getting back to you. I am preparing for my final and am reviewing my old posts and just happened to see your questions. I hope this has helped you out. I can provide a few of my own examples with steps if you would like!

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