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#1 2013-01-25 10:51:49

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I've Reached Infinity! 2

Can we continue the thread here?
Anyway, 100! equals
9.332622e157.
What is e?
Speaking of e... I got E on GeoGebra, I zoomed out and it ended up with 6.5E9. I know thats greater than 1,000,000 units, because I passed that.


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#2 2013-01-25 10:56:39

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

e or E in this case stands for exponent. If you say

5.3434 e4 that means 5.3434 x 10^4

9.332622e157 that means 9.332622 x 10^157

6.5E9 that means 6.5 x 10^9


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#3 2013-01-25 11:13:28

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

So...
on GeoGebra, 6.5e9 is
20,711,912.8 units?


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#4 2013-01-25 11:20:31

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

6.5E9 = 6.5 x 10^9 = 6 500 000 000, I do not know how you are getting 20,711,912.8


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#5 2013-01-25 11:50:47

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

I figured that 100! is somewhere around...
654,747,700,701,377,386,126,856,657,861,679,570,529,800,895,801,424,573,182,559,133,258,946,484,061,065,580,876,771,978,236,269,380,302,819,031,314,362,546,968,961,704,181,923,607,153,180,171,236,969. That's QUINDECILLIONS!


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#6 2013-01-25 11:52:33

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

Hi;

Not quite.

100!= 93326215443944152681699238856266700490715968264381621468592963895217599993229915608941463976156518286253697920827223758251185210916864000000000000000000000000


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#7 2013-01-25 12:03:17

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

Was I close?


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#8 2013-01-25 12:16:19

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

Hi;

You were off by a factor of 142 million.


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#9 2013-01-26 04:52:23

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

Speaking of infinity, I think 0^0= -0, which is infinity... for it is beyond definition....


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#10 2013-01-26 06:29:07

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

GeoGebra said it was infinity too.
I scrolled over and i found a maximum of 10E19.


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#11 2013-01-26 06:31:42

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

10E19 is...
10,000,000,000,000,000,000 units... that is like a.... QUINTILLION!


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#12 2013-01-26 06:43:49

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

You are missing one 0 in there...


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#13 2013-01-26 09:02:20

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

100,000,000,000,000,000,000?


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#14 2013-01-26 11:11:38

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

That is correct!


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#15 2013-01-26 14:52:06

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

0^0 does not equal -0


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#16 2013-01-26 23:02:57

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

It's a theory!


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#17 2013-01-26 23:57:30

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

It is not a theory since you didn't show any arguments that it should be so...


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#18 2013-01-27 01:01:10

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

Hi;

What is -0?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?
Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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#19 2013-01-27 05:25:47

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

It's undefined... smile
bwahahahahahahaha


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#20 2013-01-27 06:16:29

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

No, it is not. -0 is equal to 0.


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#21 2013-01-27 08:48:01

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

0 is neither -0 or +0.


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#22 2013-01-27 10:21:10

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

If you mean to say that zero is neither positive nor negative, you're absolutely correct. But '-0' isn't the same as saying 'zero is negative'!

To see why 0 is the same as -0 and +0, imagine +1, +2, and so on, as a line starting from zero, like this:

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A negative number is the same as a positive number, except you reverse the line. It's Stays the same length and still starts at zero, but it's flipped. For example, -2 looks like this:

jLgaM7M.png

You can imagine "flipping the line" with numbers closer and closer to zero (shorter and shorter lines). But what happens when your line gets so short that it doesn't really have length? (You could say "0 length").

By that stage, you don't really have a line anymore. You have a point which represents zero:

mM7ZLC1.png

Because it doesn't have any length "flipping" it doesn't change it, so +0 is the same as -0.

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#23 2013-01-27 10:29:48

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

Hi;

Please follow the other thread. There you will find good reasons for 0^0 = 1.


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Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?
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#24 2013-01-27 10:47:49

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

Last edited by 21122012 (2013-01-27 10:53:53)


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