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#1126 2013-04-07 14:10:46

anonimnystefy
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Re: Bafflers?

Great. And I learned another M instruction. Thanks!


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

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#1127 2013-04-07 14:12:26

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Re: Bafflers?

Yes, you have been introduced to Mr. Frobenius.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1128 2013-04-07 14:16:13

anonimnystefy
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Re: Bafflers?

I heard of the numbers before, but I could not recall them, let alone know that M has such an instruction.


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

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#1129 2013-04-07 14:18:39

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Re: Bafflers?

M is like having a 1000 mathematicians as your personal pals. They will instruct you, just reading the help is an education!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1130 2013-04-07 14:29:33

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Re: Bafflers?

It truly is.

Got any new problems (preferably mathematical)?


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

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#1131 2013-04-07 14:36:26

bobbym
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Re: Bafflers?

Yes, get a closed form for the number of moves of Catch(n).


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1132 2013-04-07 14:42:14

anonimnystefy
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Re: Bafflers?

I will, but tomorrow.


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

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#1133 2013-04-07 15:24:50

bobbym
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Re: Bafflers?

Hmmm, it will fight back.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1134 2013-04-08 00:57:33

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Re: Bafflers?

bobbym wrote:

Hmmm, it will fight back.

Problems worthy of attack
Prove their worth by fighting back.
—Piet Hein


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#1135 2013-04-08 03:52:07

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Re: Bafflers?

Yes, as long as they do not fight back too hard.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1136 2013-09-03 21:12:46

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Re: Bafflers?

New Problem:

A standard deck has its cards turned over one by one. Where is the most likely spots for the 2 red jacks?

A says) All positions have the same chance by super - duper symmetry.

B says) Not exactly A. The best positions are...

C says) Quiet B, I have the answer. The best position for the two red jacks is the 24th and 25 card.

D says) What is position?

E says) I got it!

A says) We must have the same answer!

What do you get?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1137 2013-09-03 21:23:31

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Re: Bafflers?

Was the deck shuffled?


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

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#1138 2013-09-03 21:40:05

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi;

That is all I have. If it was not shuffled and was right out of the box it would be easy to determine the position of them.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1139 2013-09-03 23:03:36

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Re: Bafflers?

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#1140 2013-09-03 23:12:28

bobbym
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Re: Bafflers?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1141 2013-09-03 23:33:21

gAr
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Re: Bafflers?

Hi bobbym,


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1142 2013-09-04 00:11:02

bobbym
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Re: Bafflers?

Hi gAr;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1143 2013-09-04 00:18:59

gAr
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Re: Bafflers?

Hi,


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1144 2013-09-04 00:25:11

bobbym
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Re: Bafflers?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1145 2013-09-04 00:28:59

gAr
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Re: Bafflers?

Ah, yes!


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1146 2013-09-04 00:33:00

gAr
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Re: Bafflers?

And what is the title of the book you mentioned?


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1147 2013-09-04 00:34:55

bobbym
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Re: Bafflers?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1148 2013-09-04 00:56:55

gAr
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Re: Bafflers?

Thanks for that.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1149 2013-09-04 00:59:44

bobbym
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Re: Bafflers?

Really cool problems and lots of formulas.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1150 2013-09-04 01:01:16

gAr
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Re: Bafflers?

Yes, the contents look interesting..


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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