Math Is Fun Forum

Hmm, a Skyline GTR is it? This man must know something to bring forth the name Nissan and choose the right card, so to speak. I'd rather not get into lesser manifestations, such as the 300zx with the optional manual gearbox, but that's another story for another day. I am pleased to see that at least one person on this forum seems to have their wits about them. I must say that this so called Mr. Hungus seemed an adversary at first, but has quickly shown himself to be at the very least the lesser of all evils.

It reminds me of my younger days, how naive we were back then. Watching young men give it all, life, love, the future, all of that for chariots of screeching metal and combusting vapors, screaming off into the night like banshees. Like out cornering one twin turbo RX-7 would absolve one of all sins, hah, if I knew then what I have come to know now. How we marched like animals to the slaughter, fancying ourselves gods of some kind. What fools we were, thinking all concerns, all the world's worries could be handled in the brutal melee of gripping rubber, of spooling turbos. Wrenching out our very souls for a fool's bargain. I suppose the fact that I made it through is the burden, the curse, the duty, whichever you will, that I must bear, to tell this tale for the benefit of others.

For all of you would be drift racers be aware of the burden you must bear.

In reference the the post by Mr. (or would it be Herr?) Karl Hungus I must say that it's the first time I actually agree with someone on this forum, and a foreigner to nonetheless! If this man can cut to the point so quick after a lifetime of hardship perhaps all of you could learn something. This reminds of a little skirmish known as World War 2, when the only ones who could keep their heads on straight, Germany and Japan, had to ally to brave it through the dark. Well maybe such times are on us again.

I don't think anyone needs to be reminded of a Mitsubishi from times past, darker times, when brother had to slay brother for foreign oil and lies.

I certainly hope your post does not mean to imply the superiority of German automobiles over the finely tuned machines of the east. I resent your digression but feel I must present a suitable response:

Yes it is correct I meant "Georg", thank you for you correction, as I do not think that any of us want to delve into the history of that unsavory Geog character.

Now on to the subject matter, it is true that the mathematical concept of flux, be it cylindrical or any geometric shape, has its legitimate uses it does not hold a canlde to the effervescent truth potentially held in the continuum hypothesis. If you want a real world example, it would be like a happy three cylinder geo metro bopping along on the highway only to have its doors blown off by a Mark IV twin turbo Supra running 30psi of boost. There is really no comparison.

While the truth value of the continuum hypothesis has yet to be ascertained, that's not to say that it is not useful. Can you prove that true love exists? But does it happen everyday nonetheless? I rest my case.

Yes, my avatar is that of the biggest balla (go H-town!) to come out of the 80s.

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-- "infinity in a grain of sand, eternity in an hour" (William Blake)

Well to fully understand it you have to extrapolate from the data you have to work with and learn a little about the works of the mathematician Geog Cantor. His seminal work was his supposed continuum hypothesis. While it has yet to be fully ingratiated into our conventional formal system of mathematics we can use it for basic day to day applications. It is true that there are an infinite number of digits in Pi, but with simple encapsulation we can encompass all of it within one framework. You have to do this to work with it practically, as we obviously can not deal with a truly infinite magnituter in a pragmatic sense. This all may sound like a lot, but you can get the basics with some elementary googling (tm).

If you really want to get technical and downshift it, you might want to read up on some Godel as well. His observations on formal systems play in to all of this.

This must all surely be a mouthful, my personal way of dealing with this is sitting back on a fine evening with some David Bowie and taking it at my own pace.