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Hm... I thought I already solved using soroban's method, it's way even better and easier.
But thanks for showing it, too.
I guess you didn't read the whole post.
Maybe it's just confusing.
Anyway, Thanks.
I manage to solve it for the question below.
Sorry I don't know how to use the [math.][/math.] thing.
I tried with your method:
⇒ [y = m(x-10)+1] ⇒ x² + y² = 25
⇒ x² + (mx - 10m + 1)² - 25 = 0 ...... Expand and cleanup...
⇒ m²x² - 20m²x + 100m² +2mx - 20m + x² - 24 = 0 ...... Into quadratic equation.
⇒ (m² + 1)x² + (2m - 20m²)x + 100m² - 20m - 24 = 0 ...... Into The discriminant of a quadratic.
⇒ (2m - 20m²)² - 4(m² + 1)(100m² - 20m - 24) = 0 ...... Poof...!
⇒ 300m² - 80m - 96 = 0 ...... Solve with (-b±√(b² - 4ac))/(2a)...
⇒ m1 = (2+2√19)/15 and m2 = (2-2√19)/15 ...... Now we have the gradient, c = y - mx...
⇒ c1 = 1 - 10m1 and c2 = 1 - 10m2 ...... So...
⇒ c1 = (-1-4√19)/3 and c2 = (-1+4√19)/3 ....Subtitute into x² + y² = 25...
⇒ x² + (mx + c)² - 25 = 0 ...... Expand and cleanup...
⇒ (m² + 1)x² + 2mcx + c² - 25 = 0 ...... Solve with (-b±√(b² - 4ac))/(2a)...
⇒ (-(2mc) + √((2mc)² - 4(m² + 1)(c² - 25)))/(2(m² + 1)) ... THIS IS MADNESS...
⇒ x1 = 2.906821678 ...... Subtitude into y = mx + c and solve...
⇒ y1 = -4.068216776
So the first point of tangent is... approximately (2.9,-4.1)...
... There's no way I am gonna find the other point of tangent.
This is crazy. ( Took me 3 hours to solve the mistakes ).
At last I end up using online tools.
Okay, next, I tried using soroban's:
[math]⇒ (y - 1)/(x - 10) = -x/y ⇒
⇒ y² - y = -x² + 10x ⇒ 10x + y = x² + y² ⇒ y = 25 - 10x
⇒ x² + (25 - 10x)² = 25
⇒ x² + 625 - 500x + 100x² - 25 = 0 ⇒ 101x² - 500x + 600 = 0
Solving 101x² - 500x + 600 = 0 with (-b±√(b² - 4ac))/(2a)...
⇒ x1 = 2.906821678 x2 = 2.043673372 ... Am I seeing things?
Subtituting x1 and x2 into y = 25 - 10x...
⇒ y1 = -4.068216776 and y2 = 4.563266281
Resulting: (Sorry The image is over-sized...)
... x1 ≈ 2.906821678, y1 = -4.068216776 and x2 = 2.043673372, y2 = 4.563266281.
Wow... I solved this at once using soroban's method.
I'm sorry I misread the method, I thought it was something else.
Thank you Bobbym, Uh... Soroban, and Raghuram.
Thanks for a lot more than a dozen even more than a lot of a bunch!
Thank you! ( I don't know what else to say. )
Hi kei10;
That is not exactly correct, the tangent is always perpendicular to the radius at the point. Unless I am misunderstanding it their method will always work too.
Please understand that I only provided the method I used because Raghuram had already solved it in that way. I just wanted to show you that there is always another way.
Soroban is a very clever guy and it pays to look over his ideas.
You can of course use the method that you are most comfortable with. That is a smart way to work.
Hi.
Perhaps I'm wrongly analyzed the method.
I think I am having difficulty of your method since it's so hard.
Then I will try comparing to sorobans and raghuram's.
I'll try harder anyway.
Well, Thanks!
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Thanks, It helps a lot.
But in other words, that probably works only when the shape of the tangent is perpendicular.
But bobbym's method works on every points, and even tangents.
... except it needs a lot of hard work on expanding/cleaning up the equations.
Thanks a lot more than a bunch!
I've never thought of using discriminant of quadratic, I'm dumb!
But...
Oh boy oh boy thank you!!
Unbelievably splendidly awesome!!
Thank you very much.
.. Thanks for a dozen more than a bunch!
Thanks.
Hi, I'm new to this forum.
Okay here's my question was...
Is it possible to find the point of the tangent of a circle given just a point?
There will be 2 tangents unless the point is directly on the circumference.
I know it's possible with given an equation of the circle and an equation of a slope.
But I can't solve this one...
Solving it without the use of Graph but just formula.
Given the center of the circle, (0,0) with the radius = 5.
And a point, (7,1).
The equation of the circle will be; [x^2 + y^2 = 25]
While the equation of the slope is unknown.
We have to find the point of the intersection of (x1,y1) and (x2,y2).
Is this possible? If there is, how?
Thanks.
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